*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[humbug]

I take it these are legit. Single threaded benchmarks?

Seems so, i think thats a very good showing, The 6900K is boosting to 4Ghz in single threaded, the 1800X 4.1Ghz.

The 1800X is 2.5% higher clock than Broadwell, but scores 6.5% higher in single threaded, the MT puts the 1800X even more ahead, 9% i think it was.... this is impressive stuff from AMD.

 

[Jono8]

@xs2man



What is this from??

Presumably 4.4ghz is not guaranteed on all chips? Otherwise why would use anything other than 11?

 

[Jono8]

Seems so, i think thats a very good showing, The 6900K is boosting to 4Ghz in single threaded, the 1800X 4.1Ghz.

The 1800X is 2.5% higher clock than Broadwell, but scores 6.5% higher in single threaded, the MT puts the 1800X even more ahead, 9% i think it was.... this is impressive stuff from AMD.

I thought the 6900k has a max turbo frequency of 3.7ghz?

Edit - ignore - looks like turbo 3.0 puts single core to 4.0ghz.

 

[Techen]

Presumably 4.4ghz is not guaranteed on all chips? Otherwise why would use anything other than 11?

If they can get the 1800k to sit at 4.4ghz, I reckon AMD are going to be selling a lot more CPUs...

 

[humbug]

I thought the 6900k has a max turbo frequency of 3.7ghz?

Edit - ignore - looks like turbo 3.0 puts single core to 4.0ghz.

https://ark.intel.com/products/94196/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-Processor-20M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Presumably 4.4ghz is not guaranteed on all chips? Otherwise why would use anything other than 11?

It might be for the R7 1800X??

I thought the 6900k has a max turbo frequency of 3.7ghz?

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...l-broadwell-e-i7-6950x-i7-6900k-review-2.html

 

[Bonjour]

The turbo dial going up to 11 has to be some wag's idea of a joke, surely? If so, genius!

 

[Panos]

Presumably 4.4ghz is not guaranteed on all chips? Otherwise why would use anything other than 11?

That knob on the motherboard, reminds me the old VIA board days. Where to do overclock, we had to do it with switches on the motherboard. And swear a lot, when we clicked the wrong switch after we tried to boot the machine.

The 1800X overclocking will depend your cooling. You might be able to do 4.2 with H100 but you will need something like a Predator 360 for 4.4. And these also are presets like the ones found in the Z170 Formula OC.
Yes the Z170 Formula has preset there for 6.5Ghz but need LN2 to do so. If I try to do it on my 6700K, it will laugh at me and turn off waiting BIOS reset.

The turbo dial going up to 11 has to be some wag's idea of a joke, surely? If so, genius!

They couldn't do 12. Because Judas will be around there......

 

[gupsterg]

Presumably 4.4ghz is not guaranteed on all chips? Otherwise why would use anything other than 11?

In manual you will find disclaimer, page 33.

• The success of overclocking depends on the components of your computer.

• We do not guarantee the GAME BOOST overclocking range or the damages/risks caused by overclocking behavior.

 

[Techen]

In manual you will find disclaimer, page 33.

Day ruined now :B

 

[Panos]

Day ruined now :B

Sorry but same applied to the Z170 Formula OC I have. Yes I can see the menu option there, but I know it wont work....

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Day ruined now :B

Isn't that a standard disclaimer for overclocking by any company though??

 

[labbby]

Isn't that a standard disclaimer for overclocking by any company though??

I was just thinking that

 

[Techen]

Sorry but why would you leave the LN2 settings on a easily accessible knob? XD Surely they've tested a few 1800k and found 4.4 could work depending on your cooling (A boy could dream)

 

[Panos]

Sorry but why would you leave the LN2 settings on a easily accessible knob? XD Surely they've tested a few 1800k and found 4.4 could work depending on your cooling (A boy could dream)

Hold. We know the LN2 of the F1 stepping 1800X has done 5.2Ghz on all cores. And that was released with the blessing of AMD, when everything else is under NDA.So it might do better but they cannot say anything or else they will meet Gibbo at the AMD HQ dungeon facing the same punishment........

And to put in perceptive the 7700K can do 7Ghz only on 2 cores active.

So 4.4Ghz could be a good standard overclock with a good 240-360mm rad. As is for the 6900K, 6950X etc.
Manual overclock could be even higher, but found the presets working all the time, with the Z170 Formula OC and the 6700K.

And talking about Overclocks.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/5960x-asus-rog-extreme-v.18770384/

AMDMatt sold his 5960X @4.9Ghz today........... Hmm abandon ship when there is still value?

 

[jigger]

The difference in clock speeds seems to point out the silicon used in the 1800X is the best.

 

[harney]

Noctua D15 is king daddy, will perform just as well, if not better, than any AIO. Don't believe the marketing fluff, top end air coolers are just as good as AIOs. Custom loop full watercooling is a different ball game altogether, but obviously costs a pretty penny.

Agree

 

[Minstadave]

AMDMatt sold his 5960X @4.9Ghz today........... Hmm abandon ship when there is still value?

Absolutely, high end X99 chips are about to nosedive in value.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Seems legit with what we have seen so far (considering the max turbo of the 7770k is 500mhz more than the 1800x).

Everything points to ~ broadwell levels of IPC

42.88 per ghz for 7700k, 40.75 for Ryzen, 39.35 for my 4770k - that's my upgrade to Ryzen confirmed!

 

[gupsterg]

Been reading the thread with interest . I for one am still sitting on the fence if will go Ryzen. What I saw of the AMD presentation on Ryzen on internet I'm impressed with price/performance of R7. Hoping when reviews hit they show Ryzen has nice all round performance.

Few days ago I was pretty much sold on idea of not going Ryzen until my i5 is useless for my purposes. After viewing some listings on ebay for my CPU/mobo/RAM, I reckon if sold with FVF promo I'd lose no £ selling it, which got me pondering jumping the "blue ship" I managed to nab some G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200MHz C14 2x8GB @ unmissable price. So if reviews are favourable for the R7 I aim to sell my i5 and use my old Q6600 to tide me over til R5 is released.

Be nice to be on AMD CPU, had good times on S939 and earlier AMD chips .