A penalty charge notice in Redbridge.

David Bulke · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:12

Hi guys,

Was hoping I could get some help/insight on this PCN I've received. When performing this maneuver I didn't see the prohibited u turn. Another reason for this action was to save valuable time of not having to going all the way down the A1400 road about to only turn around again at the Woodford Avenue roundabout.

I'll upload the pictures from the council.

Should I appeal against it? Is it worth it?

Kenai · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:16

So you did something on the road that you shouldn't have, because by your own admittance you failed to pay enough attention while driving to see road signs?

Sure appeal it, put the reason down as 'I was driving without due care and attention to save valuable time' and ask them to forward it to the police instead

Alternatively, just pay it.

David Bulke · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:22

David Bulke · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:27

Is it possible to maybe get a reduction?

Plus I just checked on Google maps and there is a sign further away, I feel there should be a sign as you come onto the road because I didn't pass that sign so I would now think that the prohibited u turn applies when im close to it or past it.

Basher · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:27

On what grounds are your proposing to appeal it?

Howard · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:28

David Bulke said:
I didn't see the prohibited u turn

I've highlighted the reason you received the ticket. There's no point appealing just because it was "more convenient". Hope this helps

Steeps · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:28

How much time was saved and how valuable do you see your time being?

Just pay it, the signs both to the left and right of your car are "no U turn" on that junction, there's a camera sign on the one just behind your car and more than enough side streets to go down to turn around in including the one you were using for your U turn.

Vanquish-Storm · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:31

What do the two signs state?

Maundie · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:33

Welcome to the forums, interesting 1st post.

As stated, what are your grounds for appeal?

Steeps · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:36

Good luck.

Cookeh · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:36

Cant even fathom your thought process here... You know you're in the wrong but still feel like you shouldn't have to pay it?

Man up, admit fault and pay it.

bloodiedathame · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:39

Thanks for making me chuckle this morning.

Kenai · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:41

If you didn't see those, might I suggest opening your eyes whilst driving? It tends to help

edit - damnit, Steeps got there faster

MooMoo444 · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:43

Beating a dead horse but can only echo the sentiments above. Several signs and even a warning of cameras. Can't really see an appeal getting far.

David Bulke · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:44

Okay I put my hands up guys.

Steeps · 21 Apr 2017 at 09:44

Kenai said:
If you didn't see those, might I suggest opening your eyes whilst driving? It tends to help

edit - damnit, Steeps got there faster

Always faster when you do a U-Turn

Havana_UK · 21 Apr 2017 at 10:15

Steeps said:
How much time was saved and how valuable do you see your time being?

At most a minute I'd expect and evidently that minute is worth £50!

Wish I earned that sort of money

Vanquish-Storm · 21 Apr 2017 at 10:18

Is this a joke?

Yas786 · 21 Apr 2017 at 10:48

I know that area pretty well, seeing as I just live down the road myself. But the no u turn sign is there, no idea how you missed it though

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Might need to go specsavers

. It really wouldn't have taken you that much longer to continue up the road and go back round via the small roundabout.

Pay the fine as you were in the wrong.

IAmATeaf · 21 Apr 2017 at 11:10

Pay the fine and take the points like a man, then sit back and review how long you've been doing this and how much time you've saved prior to getting caught.

I got caught back in 2011, rather than going round a rather large roundabout with traffic lights on it, I used to cut straight through and then make a sharp right. Did this for some 10 years before getting caught. I worked out that prior to getting caught I had saved a massive 79,200 seconds, approximately off course.

After the ticket I never did it again but never calculated how many seconds since then I've wasted