would you take £150 and 2 boxes of toilet roll (only used once)?
Chuck in a new toothbrush too and it's yours.
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would you take £150 and 2 boxes of toilet roll (only used once)?
Nvidia are happier selling fewer cards, at a higher price (for the same profit of selling many more cards at a lower price). Rather short sighted as all this tactic will do is kill off PC gaming. New consoles and cloud gaming are going to only accelerate this decline.
How do we fix this? Stop pre-ordering £1200 GPU's that you haven't seen benchmarks of. Try and control yourself for gods sake.
You called people out as p* takers for selling like this.
You compared it to selling a banger that was about to break, which would incur repair cost on the buyer (a very wrong analogy).
Now you say "I wouldn't treat someone like that", inferring the transaction is malicious on the part of the seller.
No. Given 2080ti's are easy to come by and they're all around the same price, there is no gouging on anyone's behalf.Agreed, not a great analogy. I also said it's comparable to retailer price gouging which on reflection is a fairer analogy, wouldn't you agree?
There is simply not enough information here for the assumptions you make on "p* taking"
Real question is do I preemptively sell my 2080S and get decent cash on it and buy ampere blind. If so when is best time, considering I have no back up GPU I'll have to use integrated!
Seriously, why do people do this? Just enjoy what you have, don't sit for months with nothing just to save yourself £100 or whatever.
Sure, that's your take on it and fwiw I'm the same. But I see it all the time with others - they sacrifice frames to ensure they mitigate cost differentials between generations. Or they reallocate funds towards another, more expensive piece of hardware in the short-term. It helps if you are between games and wont miss the card in the short-term, but would like to be open to dabbling with other games.nothing I've read has convinced me to sit with no GPU for months in order to prise maximum cash from a prospective buyer, just to fund a future purchase.
I still think you have the wrong mindset here and are not open other (more plausible imo) possibilities:Fortunately, I don't need the cash that badly and personally I'd rather not take advantage of someone in that way.
Depends on what you are using it for, resolution you are rendering at, whether you are playing games that will utilise RTX and which ampere card (3080ti? etc) you would be looking to get.Is Ampere likely to be bottlenecked by a Ryzen 1700? I thought about upgrading my GPU before thinking about CPU or motherboard at a later date.
Photoediting, gaming on new titles like Cyberpunk, I was thinking of spending upto £1000ish, depends on what's available at that price point.Depends on what you are using it for, resolution you are rendering at, whether you are playing games that will utilise RTX and which ampere card (3080ti? etc) you would be looking to get.
You might be on single thread hungry games, but a lot of newer titles are beginning to scale well on more cores, so that cpu will hold out fine I reckon. It may well be a bottleneck at times, but a new GPU is going to see you further now regardless and it isn't exactly much hardship to swap it to a new mobo/cpu if you upgrade your platform later. Worst case scenario: crank up the AA to make the GPU sweat and earn its wage if the CPU isn't feeding it fast enough.Is Ampere likely to be bottlenecked by a Ryzen 1700? I thought about upgrading my GPU before thinking about CPU or motherboard at a later date.
Ha! Makes sense. As long as there isn't a significant loss, I'm hoping my next upgrade will last me a good 4 years. Thank you.You might be on single thread hungry games, but a lot of newer titles are beginning to scale well on more cores, so that cpu will hold out fine I reckon. It may well be a bottleneck at times, but a new GPU is going to see you further now regardless and it isn't exactly much hardship to swap it to a new mobo/cpu if you upgrade your platform later. Worst case scenario: crank up the AA to make the GPU sweat and earn its wage if the CPU isn't feeding it fast enough.
A cheap 3700x would be a nice upgrade with a new card, or even a 3600 would be a nice boost in gamingPhotoediting, gaming on new titles like Cyberpunk, I was thinking of spending upto £1000ish, depends on what's available at that price point.
I've thought about a 3700x, it's affordable, and would buy me a few more years until AM5/DDR5 platform is a bit more established, and I can always upgrade my motherboard next year if i really need to. I rather not lose any cores as productivity is more important, so 3600 is out. A lot of decisons, but this forum has helped immensely.A cheap 3700x would be a nice upgrade with a new card, or even a 3600 would be a nice boost in gaming
I've thought about a 3700x, it's affordable, and would buy me a few more years until AM5/DDR5 platform is a bit more established, and I can always upgrade my motherboard next year if i really need to. I rather not lose any cores as productivity is more important, so 3600 is out. A lot of decisons, but this forum has helped immensely.
Is Ampere likely to be bottlenecked by a Ryzen 1700? I thought about upgrading my GPU before thinking about CPU or motherboard at a later date.
if it helps, a 3700x will bottleneck the most expensive Ampere at 1080p. It really depends on your screen resolution
Why would you buy the most expensive Ampere to game at 1080p? and the moment you switch up to 1440p and 4K you won't bottle neck any reasonable recent CPU
I'm running at 1440p 16:9, possibly moving to 21:9 in a couple of years. I just want something to run decently for the next few years, as I plan on skipping the nVidia 40 series, and then upgrade again when the 50 series or eqivalent AMD cards are available. I'm going to get the £1000ish priced card, and see how it hold up with Davinci Resolve and Cyberpunk, and think about upgrading in mid-2021 to Zen 3.