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He wouldn't have been arrested if he wasn't involved in criminality.
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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He wouldn't have been arrested if he wasn't involved in criminality.
Soldato
So because those officers got away with murder this one should as well? What a great way to apply justice. Maybe seeing more police being convicted would be a better result. They shouldn't be above the law.
Dodgy in your opinion. I know this is hard for you to compute but your opinion isn't fact. Every high profile case gets lots of media attention. Unless you are suggesting that no one in such cases can get a fair trial then you have to trust the system. 12 people saw the evidence and came to the conclusion he was guilty. One of them could have held out and it would have been a mistrial and we'd never have known who it was.
You don't get due process on losing your job. What are you talking about. They get their due process in the justice system and when they come before a jury of their peers in their trial in the next few months. After todays result I would be worried if I were them. None of them did a thing to help GF.
Similar thoughts here.
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That would leave a power vacuum that would be filled by whoever wanted it enough and was ruthless and skilled enough to take it. Removing the rule of law would result in either be gang leaders becoming de facto local warlords or more organised political groups doing so. Which is presumably why some "progressives" favour it - they think their ideology would win and become the de facto authorities. Openly applying such radically different standards to people solely depending on their "race" would also be a victory for the "progressives" since extreme racism is such a fundamental part of their ideology. It's what they want and what they're getting, but "progressing" towards it so far so quickly would be a great victory for them. A bit further along the line and they might be able to get racist segregation restored to law. More "progress" for them.
I think they're probably wrong about the first part because the gangs are more ruthless in their use of violence. All it would take is a reasonably skilled gang leader to win that conflict and with that much power up for grabs people would go for it. However, the "progressives" could call on greater force either in numbers or by having the military called in. They might well be able to pull it off. They are politically skilled and completely amoral.
Im not suggesting he should have been acquitted! I’m suggesting that the harshest punishment was already predetermined, despite some of the evidence pointing to the contrary.
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I cannot be a member of this forum anymore, discrimination of all sorts is far too rampant. Such a shame. Request sent to delete account.
RIP George
Dude don't leave because of a few idiots. Sadly they are in society, it just seems OCUK has a higher percentage than the norm.
You know what they say about curiosity and cats. Now I'm just curious to see if you've put me on your list
For reference, I would not say that the cap fits myself, but opinions vary 
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Orr.... just genuine systemic police reform? I mean that’s what ‘they’ really want. Not to run around the streets policing themselves.
Crazy idea, huh?
nothing to do with contrary opinion or not - The racist undertones/comments in this thread is staggering....How some of the comments in this thread are allowed to stand is beyond me....
It's disgusting
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Clearly the case. Manslaugher was up for debate, I still cannot see how 2nd degree murder was. But I think we're seeing Dr King's words falling by the wayside, it's going to be tribal in the end.
The question is now what happens to Minneapolis.
Clearly the case. Manslaugher was up for debate, I still cannot see how 2nd degree murder was. But I think we're seeing Dr King's words falling by the wayside, it's going to be tribal in the end.
The question is now what happens to Minneapolis.
Soldato
Don't worry dowie I wasn't referring to you.
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Or......a dissenting opinion. I am quite happy to take a bet without having conversed with you before that I am significantly more "ethnic" than you are. Doesn't change the facts that people have been railroaded into a debate which is going to profit a few and disadvantage the rest...
The problem is that many of us disagree on the line that a post has to cross to be "racist".
Interpreting disagreement with the verdict as racism, for example.
To be frank, people are triggered by everything and anything these days. The moderation here is pretty balanced.
Dodgy in a lot of people's opinions, thus there will likely be an appeal. Pretty clear that the original prosecutor thought this would be a difficult case too.
Nope, I'm referring to them losing their jobs instantly at the whim of the Mayor, without due process.... that is separate to charges being brought. Do you not understand that?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/28/us-police-officers-fired-rehired-why
I agree it needs to happen, but it’s almost too toxic now. Anytime a white officer shoots a black person, even under genuine circumstances, or heaven forbid by mistake, it’s a whole world of pain. And you can’t legislate or reform these things. It’s just human interaction. Something needs to happen to ‘tone’ down the rhetoric though. And politicians on both sides are frankly doing the complete opposite.
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You're not.You know what they say about curiosity and cats. Now I'm just curious to see if you've put me on your list
Yikes how quickly the virtue signalers turned up and turned this thread into driveling rot.
Guess I better order a KKK outfit and renew my subscription to Adolf weekly.
Wonder what the judge will sentence him to, consecutive, concurrent, aggravated? No doubt anything short of maximum consecutive sentences will be reason for some riots. And if we end up on the low end of sentencing then yikes.
Guess I better order a KKK outfit and renew my subscription to Adolf weekly.
Wonder what the judge will sentence him to, consecutive, concurrent, aggravated? No doubt anything short of maximum consecutive sentences will be reason for some riots. And if we end up on the low end of sentencing then yikes.
Another lie unfortunately, he said it while compressed on the floor, it's on video evidence.
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