The anti Israel = anti semitism agenda

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Oh please stop throwing anti semetic at every argument regarding Palestine.

It's old now, the world has become wise to these dirty tricks to divert from the real issue.

It's not against every argument, it's against your specific comparison involving Nazis.

If you can't make your argument without resorting to racism, you either need a better argument or to check your thought processes.
 
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No, address the grievances of the Palestinians. The thievery of the Israelies, they're greed and avarice for more and more land.

This is the issue at hand, not crude rockets which have a less then 5% of hitting there targets probably lower I don't know the exact number.

Supporting bullies and and apartheid regime and you think you have the moral high ground?


Lol what do you mean NO.

You arent going to justify your statement that says hamas should be firing rockets into Israel?

The rest is irrelevant waffle as unless you can justify why hamas should be firing rockets (regardless of success rate LOL, like this is a valid counter argument haha).
 

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It's not against every argument, it's against your specific comparison involving Nazis.

If you can't make your argument without resorting to racism, you either need a better argument or to check your thought processes.

Perhaps check your thought processes, there is nothing anti semetic about comparing what the modern Israeli regime is doing to Palestinians and what the nazis did to the jews.
 

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Lol what do you mean NO.

You arent going to justify your statement that says hamas should be firing rockets into Israel?

The rest is irrelevant waffle as unless you can justify why hamas should be firing rockets (regardless of success rate LOL, like this is a valid counter argument haha).

They have every right to defend themselves against Israeli aggression, murder, genocide. But remember what the real issue is, not the response from Hamas.
 
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I wanted to ask what is *Working Definition of Antisemitism*

It's an internationally agreed definition of antisemitism, accepted by countries and organisations across the world, including the UK government, the EU commission, and so on.

Perhaps check your thought processes, there is nothing anti semetic about comparing what the modern Israeli regime is doing to Palestinians and what the nazis did to the jews.

It's explicitly called out in the internationally accepted definition of antisemitism as an example of antisemitic behaviour.

So unless you're planning on denying the Jewish community the same right to define offensive behaviour as other minorities enjoy (which would also be discriminatory), it absolutely is antisemitic.

I had hoped it was ignorance on your part, but it appears to be something deeper.
 
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I couldn't give a crap about what definitions they make up, so no one ever criticises Israel. Load of *********.

The working definition explicitly acknowledges you can criticise Israel without it being antisemitic, provided you are consistent, proportionate, and avoid deliberately using offensive terms and comparisons.
 
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It's not against every argument, it's against your specific comparison involving Nazis.

If you can't make your argument without resorting to racism, you either need a better argument or to check your thought processes.

How is it racist to compare current Israeli genocide of Palestinians to the Nazi war crimes?

It’s far more racist to say Israel = Jews and imply criticism of Israel is therefore criticism of Jews.

Many non Israeli Jews would and are disgusted by Israel.
 
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What I can't understand is this has been going on for 70 years, why can't they call for peace split the land have a nation each and live peacefully it's not hard. the only issue is gaza and west bank being split in a way they it can not be one but after 70 years will people still have any connection to the other side.

The problem is that the situation is an immensely complex one. Yes, at its root it's about land, but it's not just Israel vs Palestine, but types of Jews vs types of Arabs who have very strong opposing views and believe that they have a populous identity tied to that land. Add onto that some allied powers and a situation that has constantly developed over the decades [and centuries], add a strong religious basis and it gets very hard to solve. In fact, it's almost impossible because there are so many different parts at play.

No proposed solution has worked, and every historical argument can be countered with another. It's permanent chicken and egg. The only way the spat will ever 'end' is for one of the 'sides' to be permanently decimated by the other. They both know this, so when one hits, the other hits back harder.

If you really want a good answer to your question, you would have to read, at some length, the history of the conflict. I don't mean Googling articles, but reading books and/or studying papers. You will see not only how awful both sides have been to the other, but how dreadful they have been to their own kind. It's actually all very interesting, and very tragic, and ultimately shows the human race up as being an aggressively selflish species, not that that distinguishes us from the rest of nature by much.
 
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It's an internationally agreed definition of antisemitism, accepted by countries and organisations across the world, including the UK government, the EU commission, and so on.
OK but why *Working Definition of Antisemitism* why not *Definition of Antisemitism*
 
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And how does said rocket achieve any of those aims?

To try and dissuade illegal Israeli settlers who are paid to move into stolen homes to want to live there. To provide some fight back against a country that is committed to the wiping out of a country and is actively extensively commuting apartheid, as researched, painstaking conclusions from the UN, Human Rights Watch, and B’Tselem (among the largest human rights orgs in the world and in Israel) show.
 
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To try and dissuade illegal Israeli settlers who are paid to move into stolen homes to want to live there. To provide some fight back against a country that is committed to the wiping out of a country and is actively extensively commuting apartheid, as researched, painstaking conclusions from the UN, Human Rights Watch, and B’Tselem (among the largest human rights orgs in the world and in Israel) show.

So it doesnt actually achieve anything except maybe get a few lucky ones through and potentially kill innocent people? Gotcha.
 
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To try and dissuade illegal Israeli settlers who are paid to move into stolen homes to want to live there. To provide some fight back against a country that is committed to the wiping out of a country and is actively extensively commuting apartheid, as researched, painstaking conclusions from the UN, Human Rights Watch, and B’Tselem (among the largest human rights orgs in the world and in Israel) show.

So it's basically an act of terror against civilians to further political aims?
 
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So it's basically an act of terror against civilians to further political aims?

Its the act of defiance by a desperate people who are being systematically removed from their lands by illegal settlers.

The small cathartic release of potentially fighting back (however small) against an enemy who vastly out-muscles you and routinely kills your family/friends/society.

You must surely understand that desperate people do desperate things.
 
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