Hazro - Any Update?

lovingbenji · 29 Sep 2008 at 22:02

nando12 said:
Spoke to a well clued up geek from Hazro earlier - they've almost fixed the snow problem. Apparently, its an issue with ATi cards and the 4850 and x1950 in particular. Nothing to do with their cabling afterall. No problems with nVidia cards apparently. Something about frequencies, EMA or EMI??, magnetic bla bla....fell asleep during our convo. Lovely chap though. Not sure if I should be posting this but anyways, he talked me through a utility called powerstrip and 2mins of tweaking later, I aint noticed a single blink!! THEYVE GONE!!!! [i never really noticed em in the first place tbh]. But, he did warn how the program can seriously mess up the monitor if you don't know the values to tweak. I'd wait for the proper instructions - not risking my £400.

p.s. Hazro's support rocks!!!

I had huge sparkling problems with my GTX260, so not only ATI imo :/

Mick-1965 · 29 Sep 2008 at 22:22

lovingbenji said:
I had huge sparkling problems with my GTX260, so not only ATI imo :/

how do you get these sparks to appear. Do you do anything particular

I dont get any problem at all on my 8800GTX not with this 24wi ver2 or with my old 24wi ver1 or even with the very first 24w

Sijo45 · 29 Sep 2008 at 22:34

It appears on dark greyish, blueish, greenish colours. I found it was particularly noticeable on Battlefield 1942 when looking at the metal on the aircraft carriers, so that gives you some idea of the sort of colours I am talking about.

If anyone wants, I will grab a screenshot of an image on which I get sparking so they can see if they also get it.

Deek2005 · 29 Sep 2008 at 22:50

I get the sparks on certain very dark areas of the screen (the dark areas in mrk's signature pic for example).

I've suffered the same problem on 2 different manufacturers GFX cards and there's been a wide selection of different cards mentioned in this thread so it seems plainly obvious that the cards are not the problem.

The choice of DVI cable used also seems to impact the severity of the problem.

Mick-1965 · 29 Sep 2008 at 23:01

Sijo45 said:
It appears on dark greyish, blueish, greenish colours. I found it was particularly noticeable on Battlefield 1942 when looking at the metal on the aircraft carriers, so that gives you some idea of the sort of colours I am talking about.

If anyone wants, I will grab a screenshot of an image on which I get sparking so they can see if they also get it.

If its a monitor fault you wont be able to screen grab ( alt prtscrn ), you`ll need to photograph it.
If you can ( alt prtscrn ) it then the fault is happening in the graphics card.

BananaDunka · 29 Sep 2008 at 23:02

Sijo45 · 29 Sep 2008 at 23:06

Mick-1965 said:
If its a monitor fault you wont be able to screen grab ( alt prtscrn ), you`ll need to photograph it.
If you can ( alt prtscrn ) it then the fault is happening in the graphics card.

You can screen grab it. Obviously, on most monitors, it won't show the problem, but it will help the people who have the HZ24Wi but haven't seen the green sparking identify whether their monitors have the problem as when they view the image, they will see the sparking.

Mick-1965 · 29 Sep 2008 at 23:18

Sijo45 said:
You can screen grab it. Obviously, on most monitors, it won't show the problem, but it will help the people who have the HZ24Wi but haven't seen the green sparking identify whether their monitors have the problem as when they view the image, they will see the sparking.

thats what Im saying. If you can screen grab ( alt prtscrn ) the sparkling then the fault is happening in the graphics card.
But youre saying a screen grab doesnt show the sparkling so the faults does lie with the monitor

nando12 · 30 Sep 2008 at 02:18

has anybody experiencing the snow/sparks effect tried powerstrip?
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm

The chap got me to change the RAMDAC value down [or up - can't remember] slightly and he drilled it into me that nothing else should be touched. It removed the sparks totally?

TerminatorUK · 30 Sep 2008 at 08:14

Do any of these 'sparking' issues effect the HZ26Wi?

Also is the HZ26Wi in for repairs as well as the 24" model/will there be a version 2 of this?

tryingtimes · 30 Sep 2008 at 10:24

My sparklies appeared on black and dark grey areas which also had white near them. The green snow was directly in line with the white areas and was very repeatable. You could drag the browser window around and the snow would follow!
I'm very familiar with powerstrip, but only when attached to an analogue display (my CRT projector), where pretty much any setting will still show a picture and you just have to keep experimenting to hit the sweetspot. I'm guessing that tfts are very specific in their timing compatibilities.
Anyway - it looks like we're getting closer to seeing our monitors again (or a new one in my case). Looking forward to seeing a lagless, responsive, standard gamut, colour accurate display again soon

xario · 30 Sep 2008 at 10:39

TerminatorUK said:
Do any of these 'sparking' issues effect the HZ26Wi?

Also is the HZ26Wi in for repairs as well as the 24" model/will there be a version 2 of this?

I have had 2 of the HZ26Wi and have not had the green sparking issue. It does have the banding issue, now wait for the firmware upgrade which apperantly fixes this problem.

TerminatorUK · 30 Sep 2008 at 10:50

Thanks for your replies!

I'm guessing all these 'firmware updates' cannot be done be the customer themselves and need to be returned to Hazro?

Might be an ideal time to purchase this monitor around xmas/new year time like I was planning it seems

viennese · 30 Sep 2008 at 12:02

TerminatorUK said:
Thanks for your replies!

I'm guessing all these 'firmware updates' cannot be done be the customer themselves and need to be returned to Hazro?

Might be an ideal time to purchase this monitor around xmas/new year time like I was planning it seems

For 26Wi owners, they have to wait until the 24Wi updates are complete before Hazro will tackle the 26". Yes, the screens will have to be returned to base just like the 24s. Hopefully this will begin next week.

TerminatorUK · 30 Sep 2008 at 13:10

viennese said:
For 26Wi owners, they have to wait until the 24Wi updates are complete before Hazro will tackle the 26". Yes, the screens will have to be returned to base just like the 24s. Hopefully this will begin next week.

Great!

Thanks ever so much again...can't wait to get a fully fixed 26Wi...seems like the perfect monitor for me

mrcrisp · 30 Sep 2008 at 13:14

I have just bought a HZ26Wi from OC and it should arrive today. Will I have to send it back to get the firmware updates?

Mick-1965 · 30 Sep 2008 at 13:57

mrcrisp said:
I have just bought a HZ26Wi from OC and it should arrive today. Will I have to send it back to get the firmware updates?

Eventually yes.
probably a fortnight away

mrcrisp · 30 Sep 2008 at 14:13

ok, well out of curiosity, are people who have purchased a HZ26Wi happy with their investment? i have read about the banding and sparkling pixel issues and how hazro might drop the h-ips panel.

TerminatorUK · 30 Sep 2008 at 14:30

Ditto, I'd also be interested in personal experience of the above as well as any photos of the 26" version in black (I think the earlier pics in this thread were the 24" version)

BananaDunka · 30 Sep 2008 at 14:32

IPS panels are expensive to make aren't they though? this could be why only a handful of brands have IPS models and why people still don't favour parting with £400+ for a 24"+ but the image quality speaks for itself.

Drop or no drop, IPS is what I've had since the Dell 2007WFP and it's what I'll continue to have until SED is out on the market.