e8600 - What else?

arrond · 15 Oct 2008 at 21:00

Hi,

This is what i currently have:

e8600, Corsair HX 620W, Antec 300

Budget is around £550 for the remaining parts. Will be running Vista Ultimate 64bit OS. Will be purchasing a 24" monitor soon so will be gaming at 1920 x 1200. Main use of PC will be gaming and general internet use.

This is my go:

Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (£17.61)
Asus P5Q-E Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (£117.49)
GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Black Dragon DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (£88.11)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (£43.46)
Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB (£193.86)

Sub Total : £391.95
Shipping : £8.95

VAT : £70.16
Total : £471.06

Can you suggest alternatives, changes etc along with a good cpu cooler to fit in my Antec 300 as i wish to overclock.

Thanks a lot

-=Vect0r=- · 15 Oct 2008 at 21:13

Looks good to me.

Maybe swap the p5q-e to the p5q-pro and consider the 4870x2 if gaming at 1920x1200 as you might just be able to squeeze that into £55o budget?

Also, Tuniq tower is a good cooler.

edit: maybe not do-able in your budget after all...

arrond · 15 Oct 2008 at 21:30

-=Vect0r=- said:
Looks good to me.

Maybe swap the p5q-e to the p5q-pro and consider the 4870x2 if gaming at 1920x1200 as you might just be able to squeeze that into £55o budget?

Also, Tuniq tower is a good cooler.

edit: maybe not do-able in your budget after all...

Thanks for the reply. Just found a thread with a pic of the Tuniq Tower in an Antec 300 and it just about fits

Might get the p5q pro and save £17

Freelanc3r · 15 Oct 2008 at 21:58

GH20NS15 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.99
(£15.26) £12.99
(£15.26)
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series DDR2 (OCZ2G8004GK) £37.99
(£44.64) £37.99
(£44.64)
Samsung SpinPoint F1 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD502IJ) £36.99
(£43.46) £36.99
(£43.46)
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £84.99
(£99.86) £84.99
(£99.86)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2048MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £299.99
(£352.49) £299.99
(£352.49)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775) £14.99
(£17.61) £14.99
(£17.61)
Sub Total : £487.94
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £8.95
VAT is being charged at 17.5% VAT : £86.96
Total : £583.85

The 4870x2 will be kickass, the budget is just over but is worth it overall. The Arctic cooler freezer 7 is a good quality cooler and will let you overclock fine. If you plan to do some heavy overclocking, a better cpu cooler would be a good idea, but not essential.

dr. sarf · 15 Oct 2008 at 23:42

arrond said:
Hi,

Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (£17.61)

Don't buy this. Buy a CD-063-PO instead.

arrond · 16 Oct 2008 at 06:53

dr. sarf said:
Don't buy this. Buy a CD-063-PO instead.

What is CD-063-PO? Is it this:

Pioneer DVR-216DBK 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
(£18.79)

Are Pioneer a better choice then Samsung when it comes to DVD writers?

Thanks

arrond · 16 Oct 2008 at 07:02

Rebel Master said:
GH20NS15 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.99
(£15.26) £12.99
(£15.26)
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series DDR2 (OCZ2G8004GK) £37.99
(£44.64) £37.99
(£44.64)
Samsung SpinPoint F1 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD502IJ) £36.99
(£43.46) £36.99
(£43.46)
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £84.99
(£99.86) £84.99
(£99.86)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2048MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £299.99
(£352.49) £299.99
(£352.49)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775) £14.99
(£17.61) £14.99
(£17.61)
Sub Total : £487.94
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £8.95
VAT is being charged at 17.5% VAT : £86.96
Total : £583.85

The 4870x2 will be kickass, the budget is just over but is worth it overall. The Arctic cooler freezer 7 is a good quality cooler and will let you overclock fine. If you plan to do some heavy overclocking, a better cpu cooler would be a good idea, but not essential.

The 4870x2 is tempting but im a little worried with my 620W PSU. Should i be? I was thinking that faster RAM with my e8600 would be better when it comes to overclocking.

Thanks for your comments

PaulyD · 16 Oct 2008 at 08:11

I would go for faster RAM, but then I always would

As for a DVD drive I don't think it really matters, they will all work and for the money they cost...

arrond · 16 Oct 2008 at 12:50

PaulyD said:
I would go for faster RAM, but then I always would

As for a DVD drive I don't think it really matters, they will all work and for the money they cost...

Yeah im gonna stick with the faster RAM and the 4870 1GB. Might get 2 HDD and use RAID 0

Thanks again.

Clive37 · 16 Oct 2008 at 17:52

arrond said:
Yeah im gonna stick with the faster RAM and the 4870 1GB. Might get 2 HDD and use RAID 0

Thanks again.

Enjoy your new rig , it should be good withthe 4870 1 gb

richyb_safc · 16 Oct 2008 at 21:53

I wouldn't be worried about your PSU, I'm running the system in my sig and currently drawing 240W, the most I've seen it get too is just over 400W (while running 3D Mark Vantage)

arrond · 17 Oct 2008 at 06:49

richyb_safc said:
I wouldn't be worried about your PSU, I'm running the system in my sig and currently drawing 240W, the most I've seen it get too is just over 400W (while running 3D Mark Vantage)

Thats a suprise. I automatically assumed that a new system with a new graphics card will need like a 1000w psu :eek:

I should research more

Thanks for the info Rich.

I went with the following after:

Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail 1 £155.09
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard 1 £79.89
GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Black Dragon DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GB24GB8500C5DC) 1 £65.79
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST3500320AS) 2 £69.54
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM 1 £14.09
Acousti Ultra-Soft Arrowhead Fan Mounts - 8 Pack 1 £2.81

Sub Total: £387.21
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri) Shipping: £8.95
Total Vat: £69.33
Total inc Vat: £465.49

Also ordered an OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU Cooler.

Can't wait to build this machine. Its been around 8 months since i played a PC game. Got lots of catching up to do

Thanks for the comments.

NeilF · 17 Oct 2008 at 07:27

PaulyD said:
I would go for faster RAM, but then I always would

What's wrong with the ram BTW? I'd be putting 'OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C4 £56.39' in my similar system - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-096-OC

helmutcheese · 17 Oct 2008 at 08:11

I would not mix ASUS+OCZ, you want to know why you can use SEARCH because its mentioned about 1x per week and read on XS and also OCZ forums although they make excuses.

It may run fine but it is known to not get on.

arrond · 17 Oct 2008 at 08:33

helmutcheese said:
I would not mix ASUS+OCZ, you want to know why you can use SEARCH because its mentioned about 1x per week and read on XS and also OCZ forums although they make excuses.

It may run fine but it is known to not get on.

I made the correct decision then

I was willing to pay a bit extra for Geil because ive used them before when i overclocked my e6300 a few years ago. After looking around the forums it seems like a good choice for overclocking.

NeilF · 17 Oct 2008 at 08:42

helmutcheese said:
I would not mix ASUS+OCZ, you want to know why you can use SEARCH because its mentioned about 1x per week and read on XS and also OCZ forums although they make excuses.

It may run fine but it is known to not get on.

I can't find anything on these forums, or even via a google?

PaulyD · 17 Oct 2008 at 08:58

Nothing particulary wrong with the RAM (in terms of the speed) but with a E8600 and the speeds they get up to then having a faster speed would be preferential in my opinion.

ASUS boards are reported to have lots of issues with different RAM manufaturers, my motherboard is well known to hate crucial ballistix but has no issue running 4x1gig sticks upto and including 1141Mhz at 5-5-5-15, have gone higher but at looser timings.

NeilF · 17 Oct 2008 at 09:01

PaulyD said:
Nothing particulary wrong with the RAM (in terms of the speed) but with a E8600 and the speeds they get up to then having a faster speed would be preferential in my opinion.

ASUS boards are reported to have lots of issues with different RAM manufaturers, my motherboard is well known to hate crucial ballistix but has no issue running 4x1gig sticks upto and including 1141Mhz at 5-5-5-15, have gone higher but at looser timings.

So what memory would recommend then for an Asus P5Q Pro? (Need 4gb and wouldn't mind spending a little xtra for future proofing)

pegasus1 · 17 Oct 2008 at 14:05

PaulyD said:
I would go for faster RAM, but then I always would
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That RAM and CPU would allow 4ghz with the RAM at stock.