o2 pings & packet loss

tipsy · 22 Oct 2008 at 22:17

http://www.speedtest.net/result/343280068.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/343281076.png

there really must be somthing up lol as this is a shocking comparison

FrenchTart · 22 Oct 2008 at 22:19

Problems with o2/Be/many other ISPs atm. Don't judge o2 purely by that.

tipsy · 22 Oct 2008 at 22:23

tbh tonight i'm just checking my bank & fleebay so no gaming, interesting thread though as my pings have suffered recently.. maybe something uk wide for adsl

zzzJonny · 22 Oct 2008 at 22:24

Sounds very odd.

twitch said:
On o2 here and no probs..

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.195] with 32 bytes of data
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=123
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=123
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=123
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=123

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.195:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1224713156&v=5341436

Heh, how come you're not affected?

Oh and bbc.net.uk? Never seen anyone use that before, just bbc.co.uk

FrenchTart · 22 Oct 2008 at 22:29

gads said:
Sounds very odd.

Heh, how come you're not affected?

Oh and bbc.net.uk? Never seen anyone use that before, just bbc.co.uk

Some places aren't affected - further south perhaps?

Sel · 22 Oct 2008 at 22:44

TiZoR said:
I have been getting 100+ pings and poor speeds since I joined o2 about a week ago.

Its fine in the day but once evening comes, bam, poor speeds and pings, ok tonight is very bad, but there still is major problems on the network.

I've been on O2 a bit longer nearly two weeks, high ping has been a major disappointment.

Also trying to download anything from the major file hosting sites is very strange. The downloads seem to pause for long periods without any data being transferred.

Locky · 22 Oct 2008 at 23:10

Yep get the same problems as you, what gateway are you connected to?

Colossus · 22 Oct 2008 at 23:39

I dont think its just O2. I'm on BT (for now) and its been (more) terrible the last few days.

Yamahahahahaha · 22 Oct 2008 at 23:57

It's fine here too.

South East London.

FordPrefect · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:12

TiZoR said:
If there was a poll on this very forum now, which is better/choice, between Cable or ADSL, I know 90% of people would like take cable everytime.

Well just because 90% of people would say something doesnt make it right although I doubt your statistics. BT is fibre to the exchange and cable is fibre to a local delivery point, the final part of the connection for both apart from very limited circumstances is copper. From a technical standpoint ADSL is far more extensible, and due to the way that cable works your data is transmitted to everyone in your local area.

Whereas its more than possible to have an ADSL connection with no contention the same is not true of cable due to the nature of the technology.

As for the delivery medium what the hell does it matter to the customer if its copper or fibre that comes into there home? Customers are interested in latency, bandwidth, contention and reliability. ADSL has comparable latency to cable as standard, granted cable can provide higher bandwidth, but due to the fact that its a broadcast medium there will always be contention and its theoretically possible for someone in your local area to snoop on your incoming traffic. As for reliability well that is dependant on too many factors but in my experience you get better support from someone other than virgin.

Sel · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:16

Unless you've had both cable and copper how would you know.

Sel · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:18

Sel said:
Yep get the same problems as you, what gateway are you connected to?

I haven't got a clue sorry.

FordPrefect · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:27

On o2 here normally its very fast but tonight speeds are very poor and ping times >100ms, It doesnt exactly impress that the backup failover infrastructure cannot cope with what the primary route can cope with.

FrenchTart · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:33

FordPrefect said:
On o2 here normally its very fast but tonight speeds are very poor and ping times >100ms, It doesnt exactly impress that the backup failover infrastructure cannot cope with what the primary route can cope with.

Lots of ISPs are having problems.

And name one commercial ISP that have a "backup fallover infrastrucrue" with the same capacity as the "primary route".

FordPrefect · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:40

Aekeron said:
Lots of ISPs are having problems.

And name one commercial ISP that have a "backup fallover infrastrucrue" with the same capacity as the "primary route".

It depends and whose word do you take. Without detailed information that no ISP is going to give to a home user you can never tell. As for commericial ISPs that have a backup that has the same capacity as the primary route my employer has that for every customer that pays for a resilient service.

RobH · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:45

I was wondering why my pings suddenly jumped to >100ms on TF2 earlier, seems fine now.

jas07 · 23 Oct 2008 at 00:55

Yer its the fibre break guys, should be fixed tomorrow hopefully.

A contractor "sliced through it"......ahem, wouldnt like to be him right now!

Enta are also effected:

http://noc.enta.net/?p=331

twitch · 23 Oct 2008 at 06:26

gads said:
Sounds very odd.

Heh, how come you're not affected?

Oh and bbc.net.uk? Never seen anyone use that before, just bbc.co.uk

I do use bbc.co.uk and it comes back with that :confused:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\twitch>ping www.bbc.co.uk

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.253.67] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=123
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=123
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=123
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=123

Ping statistics for 212.58.253.67:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 15ms

I'm in Slough.

sidethink · 23 Oct 2008 at 08:18

My Be Pro went live last night and I was thoroughly disappointed.

Syncing around 18meg but only getting a throughput equivalent to a 2meg line and shocking pings.

Hopefully this is just an anomaly due to this fibre incident in London - otherwise I'm going back to semaphore.

FrenchTart · 23 Oct 2008 at 10:30

sidethink said:
My Be Pro went live last night and I was thoroughly disappointed.

Syncing around 18meg but only getting a throughput equivalent to a 2meg line and shocking pings.

Hopefully this is just an anomaly due to this fibre incident in London - otherwise I'm going back to semaphore.

It is. The last two and a half years on Be/o2 for me have been fine but last night was bad. Coincidence? I doubt it...