More NI trouble? - Police officer shot dead

penski · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:00

teaboy5 said:
Where as these so called irish from?

Both sides of the border

I hardly go around looking to knock someone out and i am sure the rest of us dont either.

You misunderstand me - I am not referring to simple thuggery but more the Irish tendancy towards unrest.

Maybe you just hang around in the wrong social groups.

These are people I encounter while going about my business or whilst at work. Not friends of mine. They are from all walks of life and all social tiers. In fact, this week I shall make a point of asking every irish person I encounter if the irish (as a whole) like a drink and a fight..

*n

p-chan · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:05

penski said:
this week I shall make a point of asking every irish person I encounter if the irish (as a whole) like a drink and a fight.

Well, as an N.Irish man. I can speak for 100% of friends and family.
Like a drink : Yes
Fight: No.

Needles · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:05

^^ Let it be fella, this thread has went off topic once already. Stick to the point of the thread.

aayzof · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:09

p-chan said:
Well, as an N.Irish man. I can speak for 100% of friends and family.
Like a drink : Yes
Fight: No.

I've been to Ireland on a few occasions and would agree wholeheartedly with this. Based purely on my experience. I think claiming that an entire nation is predisposed to civil unrest is a somewhat ham-fisted approach.

FrostedNipple · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:14

Do you NI people like being part of the UK? Would it make more sense to give NI back to the republic?

aayzof · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:16

FrostedNipple said:
Do you NI people like being part of the UK? Would it make more sense to give NI back to the republic?

I think this is the problem, no? Loyalists, Republicans, disagreement, violence etc. etc.

CliffyBiro · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:20

penski said:
All I said was that the Irish are always spoiling for a fight. You're only proving me to be more correct with every post you make. Don't you have a driveway to be tarmacing or something?

*n

PS: anyone being shot = bad. It happening in NI = not unexpected.

People have been suspended for less.

FrostedNipple · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:23

aayzof said:
I think this is the problem, no? Loyalists, Republicans, disagreement, violence etc. etc.

Well i thought it was more a case of republicans want ni back but our government won't let them. Which is why i asked if the people of NI are actually fussed.

Bigpig · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:28

FrostedNipple said:
Well i thought it was more a case of republicans want ni back but our government won't let them. Which is why i asked if the people of NI are actually fussed.

Err No

I believe the majority of N.Ireland want to remind as part of the UK

CliffyBiro · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:30

Yep, it's that simple. Just hand over the keys. :rolleyes:

aayzof · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:30

FrostedNipple said:
Well i thought it was more a case of republicans want ni back but our government won't let them. Which is why i asked if the people of NI are actually fussed.

I think the point is that the people of NI are divided on whether to return the territory to Irish rule.

dbeckett · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:37

I think quite a few people have just given up caring about whether ni is part of the uk or roi, most people don't think its worth the hassle of caring anymore

m0r94n · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:38

skippi90 said:
Yep, it's that simple. Just hand over the keys.

Exactly, and if we we're to give Northern Ireland back it would look like a major victory for the RIRA. That's something the government are not prepared to deal with.

CliffyBiro · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:39

dbeckett said:
I think quite a few people have just given up caring about whether ni is part of the uk or roi, most people don't think its worth the hassle of caring anymore

The UK has got **** all to do with America and yet still followed them into Iraq when it was none of their business and yet you don't think they should be protecting land that is actually a part of the UK?

dbeckett · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:43

skippi90 said:
The UK has got **** all to do with America and yet still followed them into Iraq when it was none of their business and yet you don't think they should be protecting land that is actually a part of the UK?

No, actually i think they should be protecting the land and i'm very happy being part of the uk however i don't want to spend the rest of my life fighting over it

m0r94n · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:44

dbeckett said:
No, actually i think they should be protecting the land and i'm very happy being part of the uk however if i had the choice between fighting for the next 10years over it or being part of the roi id pick the latter as i don't believe peoples lives should be terrorised over it

But again, that would be extremely hypocritical against the British (and in some respects US) government given our involvement in "The War on Terror".

No-one wants to see bloodshed but if the British government is going to follow its "principles" I can only see conflict.

Eatchipz · 10 Mar 2009 at 13:54

Personally I would like a United Ireland but this violence is not the way!

Bigpig · 10 Mar 2009 at 14:04

Eatchipz said:
Personally I would like a United Ireland but this violence is not the way!

Personally am a Unionists and 100% against a United Ireland. :eek:

Gibbs · 10 Mar 2009 at 14:16

i for one would like a united ireland, the uk gov were able to hand back the sovereignty of Hong Kong back in 97 why not hand back NI to the ROI and get it done with

Bigpig · 10 Mar 2009 at 14:17

Gibbs said:
i for one would like a united ireland, the uk gov were able to hand back the sovereignty of Hong Kong back in 97 why not hand back NI to the ROI and get it done with

Because the majority who live her do not...