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got another xfx 4870 for crossfire today only to find the cooler was completly differnt than my other 1, thought nvm looks crap feels flimsy but if it works fine stick it in my system and had nothing but bsod so went thougth it all checking it nothing, Ended up trying each card seprate turns out the new card i just got is going over 120 degrees C with 100% fan and Bsod, where my old 1 never goes above 70 full load, Looks like another trip to clockers.