Poll: Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

[Lightnix]

As I am incredibly selfish, I will be voting Lib dem purely on the back of the fact they say they'll try to get rid of university fees. After thinking it through, all the parties seem like they're destined to create their own unique train wrecks, so I want to vote for the party that will personally help me stay completely out of debt.

 

[PermaBanned]

Remember when the Conservatives were conservative? Remember when the Labour party were actually socialist?

Ah, the good old days. You could either have the poll tax or gay rights. Probably an easier choice to make.

 

[meghatronic]

As I am incredibly selfish, I will be voting Lib dem purely on the back of the fact they say they'll try to get rid of university fees. After thinking it through, all the parties seem like they're destined to create their own unique train wrecks, so I want to vote for the party that will personally help me stay completely out of debt.

How will they help you stay completely out of debt?

 

[Naffa]

Well, Blair was easily the best statesman we'd had in a long, long time. It was nice to have a leader that wasn't too obsessed with America (Thatcher), and not too obsessed with Europe (Heath), but was just a good all round statesman. Cameron has already showed incredible weakness internationally, being described as a 'Nasty little Englander' by Sarkozy, having his impotent European policy criticised hugely (by European conservatives as well, including Angela Merkel and Pierre Lellouche) and being described as a 'light weight' by Barack Obama. I think international relations is the absolute weakest part of Cameron's party.

 

[JBod]

Well, Blair was easily the best statesman we'd had in a long, long time. It was nice to have a leader that wasn't too obsessed with America (Thatcher), and not too obsessed with Europe (Heath), but was just a good all round statesman. Cameron has already showed incredible weakness internationally, being described as a 'Nasty little Englander' by Sarkozy, having his impotent European policy criticised hugely (by European conservatives as well, including Angela Merkel and Pierre Lellouche) and being described as a 'light weight' by Barack Obama. I think international relations is the absolute weakest part of Cameron's party.

I think you forgot how Blair was Bush Juniors butt plug for all those years... that tiny matter of being dragged into an illegal war over in that place... oh whats it called... yea Iraq.

 

[Luseac]

I was having this discussion with my mother earlier. I would be proud for Cameron - clearly educated and a good orator - to stand toe to toe with other world leaders.

100% agree - Finally, a PM to be proud of.

President Obama went to the very expensive Harvard Law School to do his J.D. Why do I think this didn't pose him a similar problem during the US election as Cameron is having to face for Eton/Oxford?

 

[Chimerical]

Well, Blair was easily the best statesman we'd had in a long, long time. It was nice to have a leader that wasn't too obsessed with America (Thatcher). Cameron has already showed incredible weakness internationally. I think international relations is the absolute weakest part of Cameron's party.

What part of Iraq did you miss?

What part of being heavily linked to George W. Bush did you miss? You think Blair helped our international relations?

 

[Secret_Window]

Voting for Libdems just because they are new and different is an utterly ridiculous motivation.

People voting for libdems - do you have any inkling, even a clue as to their manifesto and monumental disaster it will have on us, our economy, our ability to defend ourselves and our position on the world stage???

This is why despite Clegg being a likeable honest person, the inexperience and the policies behind him do the country no favours.

Then you have the conservatives who blame everything around them for the downfall of the country and yet implement policies that are just as absurd and possibly worse than Labour's.

And as for Labour... Continuing with them is an obvious risk too as you just have look to back at the past 13yrs to see the ridiculous things that have happened - do we want this again?

For me, there is no clear cut choice at the moment.

 

[meghatronic]

100% agree - Finally, a PM to be proud of.

President Obama went to the very expensive Harvard Law School to do his J.D. Why do I think this didn't pose him a similar problem during the US election as Cameron is having to face for Eton/Oxford?

At a guess, Labour has engrained in all of us the American dream, in effect. Or, rather, how anyone can go to Univeristy. This isn't the case in America. Ivy League means something their and they're proud of their education (at least my US friends are). Here, no one gives a ****. Just my 2p.

 

[Dolph]

Remember when the Conservatives were conservative? Remember when the Labour party were actually socialist?

The longest suicide note in history?

The whole 'big society' idea is actually quite conservative in nature, but I'm guessing you have other ideas about what 'conservatives' should be.

Ah, the good old days. You could either have the poll tax or gay rights. Probably an easier choice to make.

There is a difference between gay rights then and gay rights now, mostly with the way that it has moved from a position of removing state discrimination (liberal) to forcing everyone to not discriminate (authoritarian). The same thing can be seen in numerous other positions.

Authoritarianism is simply the act of using the state to force people to think or behave in a certain way. Things like gay rights can be just as authoritarian as anti-gay behaviour by the state.

 

[Hellsmk2]

Have to say after that lib dems get my vote Clegg Did very well, he may not win but definitely getting my vote

Clegg had the easy job going into the debate as the outsider. I wasn't impressed with any of the candidates:

Clegg: Sat on the sidelines and predictably sniped at the other leaders. He had the easiest job tonight by a country mile.

Brown: On the defense as someone who has been in power at the highest levels for the past thirteen years, whilst looking to get NC's support in the highly likely outcome of a hung parliament.

Cameron: Sniped at Brown, but took the most flak as would be expected of the current poll leader.

All three spoke of what was wrong with the country, but none of them could state HOW they would fix it.

Has this changed how I will vote? Nope. I'll vote for whichever party keeps Labour out of government. Brown has destroyed the economy as Chancellor and PM. There is absolutely nothing he could do to get me to vote Labour. I'm shocked to see people talk about how good the economy has been under Labour, without being able to see the long term impact those morons have actually had - the two main things being selling our gold reserve at a third of its value, and raping the pension funds.

 

[Deiwos]

100% agree - Finally, a PM to be proud of.

President Obama went to the very expensive Harvard Law School to do his J.D. Why do I think this didn't pose him a similar problem during the US election as Cameron is having to face for Eton/Oxford?

Because we brits don't relate to him. Cameron doesn't appeal to the average person and it feels to me like nothing he says is really sincere and he is forcefully trying to come across as the average joe when we all know he isn't, he's a politician. People see through the act right away and because he has this act, his educated background has a negative influence then.

 

[Secret_Window]

Clegg had the easy job going into the debate as the outsider. I wasn't impressed with any of the candidates:

Clegg: Sat on the sidelines and predictably sniped at the other leaders. He had the easiest job tonight by a country mile.

Brown: On the defense as someone who has been in power at the highest levels for the past thirteen years, whilst looking to get NC's support in the highly likely outcome of a hung parliament.

Cameron: Sniped at Brown, but took the most flak as would be expected of the current poll leader.

All three spoke of what was wrong with the country, but none of them could state HOW they would fix it.

Has this changed how I will vote? Nope. I'll vote for whichever party keeps Labour out of government. Brown has destroyed the economy as Chancellor and PM. There is absolutely nothing he could do to get me to vote Labour. I'm shocked to see people talk about how good the economy has been under Labour, without being able to see the long term impact those morons have actually had - the two main things being selling our gold reserve at a third of its value, and raping the pension funds.

Exactly.

But one could argue Labour have done (dare I say it) some good to the country - the NHS is better than it was before 1997 and education has definitely improved. It's just the things like you said, like the economy and other factors like nanny statism in this country that really have made people (myself included) hate Labour which is too late to fix and may continue to get worse.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Because we brits don't relate to him. Cameron doesn't appeal to the average person and it feels to me like nothing he says is really sincere and he is forcefully trying to come across as the average joe when we all know he isn't, he's a politician. People see through the act right away and because he has this act, his educated background has a negative influence then.

How do you know it is an act?

"We Brits"

lol

 

[Naffa]

I think you forgot how Blair was Bush Juniors butt plug for all those years... that tiny matter of being dragged into an illegal war over in that place... oh whats it called... yea Iraq.

Wow, such a commanding use of the English language. I don't want to get into a debate over the war, but one would be a fool to suggest that there weren't extremely compelling reasons to support the Mesopotamian intervention.

What part of Iraq did you miss?

What part of being heavily linked to George W. Bush did you miss? You think Blair helped our international relations?

Well, if you're going to put it like that then you've answered your own question and the answer would be yes.

 

[Deiwos]

How do you know it is an act?

"We Brits"

lol

I didn't mean to say I was speaking on behalf of the country, I meant it to say I was British and the perception of the public I have is that above

I don't know it's an act, but the perception I have is that of a forced act and I think others think the same.

 

[lazer46]

Lib Dems for the vote!

 

[Lightnix]

How will they help you stay completely out of debt?

Well, in short, tuition fees are the only thing that I will actually, as far as I can tell, absolutely need to get into debt for in order to follow my career choices as planned. They want to begin abolishing tuition fees, and if it were really necessary there are a few universities of varying ranks within bus-getting distance of my house. However, I should probably have said 'much, much less debt than I otherwise would have been' as now that I think about it I'll probably need something in the way of funding in terms of accommodation during that period (though not essential, very nice to have). Other than that I don't plan on getting a car, getting a credit card, getting a huge overdraft (given any luck) or mortgaging a house any time soon. But it's okay, don't worry, I'll just be a drop of yellow into an ocean of blue, as my area is very conservative anyway and I don't think half the kids around here even know what voting is.

So yes, very short sighted and very selfish, but good enough reason for me. The problem is here it seems that the other two parties have some very nice things to say that immediately benefit some small groups

 

[JBod]

Well, in short, tuition fees are the only thing that I will actually, as far as I can tell, absolutely need to get into debt for in order to follow my career choices as planned. They want to begin abolishing tuition fees, and if it were really necessary there are a few universities of varying ranks within bus-getting distance of my house. However, I should probably have said 'much, much less debt than I otherwise would have been' as now that I think about it I'll probably need something in the way of funding in terms of accommodation during that period (though not essential, very nice to have). Other than that I don't plan on getting a car, getting a credit card, getting a huge overdraft (given any luck) or mortgaging a house any time soon. But it's okay, don't worry, I'll just be a drop of yellow into an ocean of blue, as my area is very conservative anyway and I don't think half the kids around here even know what voting is.

So yes, very short sighted and very selfish, but good enough reason for me. The problem is here it seems that the other two parties have some very nice things to say that immediately benefit some small groups

Where do you plan on working after they have destroyed the economy?

 

[Lightnix]

Where do you plan on working after they have destroyed the economy?

Oh, it's okay, I think by the time I get out of university presuming they do destroy the economy another party will have been elected in. Then it's just a matter of waiting it out.

That said I don't think it's even feasible Nick Cleg will be prime minister this election, to me it's really more of an insignificantly small 'power grab' toward the thing I want.