MKV compared to Blu Ray

[fozzybear]

Just experimenting with a few of my original Blu Rays discs.

Using RipBot264 to convert my Blu Rays to MKV. It takes upwards of 7 hours on an average Blu Ray but I'm shocked how high the MKV quality is.

A 45GB Blu Ray is now an 8GB MKV. I can't notice much/any difference albeit on a 22" 1080p screen.

We are allowed to talk about this aren't we?

 

[Edward01]

What are encodeing the audio / video into? what is your bit rate?

I re encode mine to h264 video at 4000 bitrate and AAC audio but only at 720 resolution. Have to turn loads of stuff off though so they work with the apple tv but the quality is pretty good.


Edit// forgot to say I put mine in an mp4 container

 

[fozzybear]

I don't mess about with any settings. I just leave ripbot264 to do it's thing.

edit//
Got this info from MediaInfo.

General

Format : Matroska
File size : 8.28 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 7 336 Kbps
Movie name : 00002
Encoded date : UTC 2010-09-28 01:40:03
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.1.1 ('Bouncin' Back') built on Jul 3 2010 22:54:08
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=30
Muxing mode : Container profile=[email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 550 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.132
Stream size : 7.40 GiB (89%)
Writing library : x264 core 104 r1683 62997d6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 740 MiB (9%)
Language : English

 

[BananaDunka]

Yes the H.264 codec is pretty high quality yet nice on filesize.

It's no different to how XviD/DiVX is compared to the original DVD counterpart.

 

[scottman]

would you notice a video quality difference on a 50" tv? Im putting all my blu-rays onto my pc to share across to a A.c.ryan mini and was wondering what to use. I've got Makemkv but not quite sure if I can get more from video/audio quality

 

[Cycrow]

MKV's are generally pretty good, its difficult to tell any difference between it and bluray tbh.

i also found that DVDFab is much quicker at encoding a bluray as it can make use of CUDA, so most of the encoding gets done on my GTX480

 

[smogsy]

MKV's are generally pretty good, its difficult to tell any difference between it and bluray tbh.

i also found that DVDFab is much quicker at encoding a bluray as it can make use of CUDA, so most of the encoding gets done on my GTX480

nice whats the time taken?

 

[haroon]

Just experimenting with a few of my original Blu Rays discs.

Using RipBot264 to convert my Blu Rays to MKV. It takes upwards of 7 hours on an average Blu Ray but I'm shocked how high the MKV quality is.

A 45GB Blu Ray is now an 8GB MKV. I can't notice much/any difference albeit on a 22" 1080p screen.

We are allowed to talk about this aren't we?

So that mean's you can fit a blu-ray quality film on a dual layer dvd?why didn't anyone think to use mkv on dvd's or is mkv a new technology released after blu-ray and hd-dvd came out?

 

[BananaDunka]

MKV is just a container, it has been around for ages.

You can't simply put one on a DVD and have a bluray or dvd player play them, this will not work.

 

[masterluke]

MKV's are generally pretty good

Thats a very strange thing to say.. its like saying that avi's are generally pretty good.

What i think you mean is that MKV's containing reasonable bitrate h264 video ripped from bluray are usually pretty good. Which is true

 

[Antihero]

Using DVDfab 8 I can rip a Bluray to MKV in about 30 minutes using single pass.

I rip them to 1280x720 with a constant bitrate of 5000Kbps and remove the HD audio which usually results in a filesize of between 4.5 - 5.0G.

They are stored on my HTPC and output to a 42" Panny plasma and look fantastic.

 

[scottman]

I'd be looking to rip them to full 1080p if i can, and keep hd audio. What program would you recommend for that? I see makemkv does everything for you, and im looking into Ripbot264

 

[fozzybear]

I'd be looking to rip them to full 1080p if i can, and keep hd audio. What program would you recommend for that? I see makemkv does everything for you, and im looking into Ripbot264

Ripbot264 does a real decent job if you don't mind waiting.

I've done 3 blu ray's so far.

A 2hr 40m one is around 8GB, a 1h 40m one is 3GB and a 1h 35m one is 6GB.

I don't know what ripbot264 did to the 1h 40m blu ray for it to only be 3GB. I've watched it and it's superb quality. These are all in 1080p and with their original audio.

 

[scottman]

Ripbot264 does a real decent job if you don't mind waiting.

I've done 3 blu ray's so far.

A 2hr 40m one is around 8GB, a 1h 40m one is 3GB and a 1h 35m one is 6GB.

I don't know what ripbot264 did to the 1h 40m blu ray for it to only be 3GB. I've watched it and it's superb quality. These are all in 1080p and with their original audio.

I'll have a proper go with ripbot then. I dont mind waiting as long as I can get as much quality out of it as I can, and 8gb sounds about right for the size and quality im looking for.

 

[bledd]

Does anyone know how to do things like Avatar and District 9 where you would only need subs for the alien sections? All I seem to be able to do is ALL subs or no subs

 

[bennyB]

Does anyone use handbrake for doing this? Or is that not possible?

 

[dazzerd]

handbrake works but has a nasty habit of randomnly crashing at 99% of the encode......

think I may look into dvd fab if it uses cuda.

 

[Theguy]

Does anyone know how to do things like Avatar and District 9 where you would only need subs for the alien sections? All I seem to be able to do is ALL subs or no subs

technically could you not go through the sub file and delete all the text exept for when the alien language is going? if you see what i mean? no idea if that would work but an idea that just came to me

 

[Meatball]

I rip my Blu-Rays to .MKV without re-encoding, they're stored on my media-PC. With storage as cheap as it is I see no reason to re-encode except to improve compatibility.

 

[scottman]

I rip my Blu-Rays to .MKV without re-encoding, they're stored on my media-PC. With storage as cheap as it is I see no reason to re-encode except to improve compatibility.

What program do you use to rip the blu rays?