Scottish Students need to stop whining!

campbell · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:26

Rant:

I'm a Scottish student. I got all my tuition fees paid. I've had a great education.

Scottish students are really getting my beef up. I mean what more do they want?

I have a lot of design/art mates on facebook because of my course/industry i work/study in. All are extremely into student moment and constantly update their FB with photos/videos of the protests.

I would understand if the protests were about equality; but all arguments are about increasing fees in England (which will have little effect on them)

If your a Scottish student I don't care why you are protesting, infact I think your an idiot. x

/rant

Chris19 · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:36

Cant agree more, although I do appreciate the fact I got a university education for what to me is free I could never stop wondering why Scottish students get that when a majority of the tax money to pay for it comes from England.

Though I think in the case of your facebook friends they just want to be a part of the moment or possibly looking into the future and realise that it could hit Scotland too.

Bumhucker · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:38

It's like all those white people that complain about racism against black people. Why do THEY care?

monkeypants · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:40

campbell said:
...x

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Van Hellseek · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:44

Do any students get their tuition fees paid in scotland or is it those born in scotland (or something)?

For example can someone from England choose Dundee uni, and get their tuition fee's paid for, or doesnt it work that way?

campbell · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:54

seek said:
Do any students get their tuition fees paid in scotland or is it those born in scotland (or something)?

For example can someone from England choose Dundee uni, and get their tuition fee's paid for, or doesnt it work that way?

English student studying in Scotland get a loan (up to 3,500 a year)

Scottish Students studying in England get a Loan

Scottish Domicile students get their fees paid.

weescott · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:54

Scottish students have fees paid. Nothing stopping foreign students (including English) attending a Scottish Univeristy but they have to pay for it.

sja360 · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:55

i think you would be required to have stayed in scotland for a period of time before starting the uni course, otherwise all of england/wales and foreigners would be able to get a free uni course

Deadbeat · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:56

So are they protesting about fees increasing for English universities?

Nitefly · 1 Dec 2010 at 17:57

Bumhucker said:
It's like all those white people that complain about racism against black people. Why do THEY care?

Quite.

campbell · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:00

Deadbeat said:
So are they protesting about fees increasing for English universities?

I don't know. Everyone i've spoken to seems to have their own agenda.

Some moan about:

The future
Fairness
EMA cuts
Education Cuts in general
Standing up for others in the union
Clegg's broken promises

Its all speculation. Its all *******

If i were to have a beef it would be about postgrad funding, but lets not go there.

Amp34 · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:03

What's wrong with that? They are protesting for their fellow students for one. We are one nation after all, it's not like they are travelling to another country (US) for example.

campbell · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:04

Amp34 said:
What's wrong with that? They are protesting for their fellow students for one. We are one nation after all, it's not like they are travelling to another country (US) for example.

But education is a devolved issue.

weescott · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:08

As far as education goes it's a completely different system. It seems like students protesting for protestings sake.

campbell · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:09

weescott said:
. It seems like students protesting for protestings sake.

Hear Hear

Amp34 · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:10

And? That doesn't mean they can't support their fellow Brits in lower price education. :confused:

afraser2k · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:12

Deadbeat said:
So are they protesting about fees increasing for English universities?

They're protesting at the increased rates down south, which means the better academics will move to the higher paying universities. Also, it is rumoured that after the next Scottish parliament election we'll see either a small fee of £4000 a year or a graduate tax introduced.

English students currently pay about half the cost of English university fees when studying in Scotland.

Scythe · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:13

sja360 said:
i think you would be required to have stayed in scotland for a period of time before starting the uni course, otherwise all of england/wales and foreigners would be able to get a free uni course

5 years in Scottish education I think.

campbell · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:13

Amp34 said:
And? That doesn't mean they can't support their fellow Brits in lower price education.

If it were the other way round do you think English students would be protesting?

I doubt it.

Deadbeat · 1 Dec 2010 at 18:17

afraser2k said:
They're protesting at the increased rates down south, which means the better academics will move to the higher paying universities. Also, it is rumoured that after the next Scottish parliament election we'll see either a small fee of £4000 a year or a graduate tax introduced.

Are they protesting this point in particular, do you know, or is this the assumed agenda couched in a semblance of solidarity for English fee-payers? If the former, are they willing to pay university fees themselves to maintain a high calibre of staffing?