Wikileaks - latest leak

Danthus · 10 Dec 2010 at 00:21

mmj_uk said:
Welcome to the early stages of fascism folks:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-cables-shell-nigeria-spying

It makes you wonder how much grip the oil giants have on our own governments, oh look here...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6797118.ece

Are you surprised, the west is doing everything it can to secure its future energy resources.

Tefal · 10 Dec 2010 at 00:31

fez said:
They don't seem to realise that the world is a lot smarter than they are. The best hackers probably don't work for the government so its best not to **** off the black hat hackers in the public domain.

Hackers have absolutely nothing to do with this though, it's not wikihackeddocumentsfromgovernmentcomputers its wiki leaks, or in other words wiki someone who works there gave them us.

CliffyBiro · 10 Dec 2010 at 00:36

Tefal said:
Hackers have absolutely nothing to do with this though, it's not wikihackeddocumentsfromgovernmentcomputers its wiki leaks, or in other words wiki someone who works there gave them us.

This is what I thought too, but people seem to think Assange has personally hacked government systems to steal the documents. He is no more than a journalist.

Castiel · 10 Dec 2010 at 00:40

skippi90 said:
This is what I thought too, but people seem to think Assange has personally hacked government systems to steal the documents. He is no more than a journalist.

Exactly he is essentially the middle man.

Pixel · 10 Dec 2010 at 00:41

What was it that governments say when our own privacy is put into question?

"If you haven't done anything wrong, there's no need to worry."

Funny to see what happens when the shoe is on the other foot.

Tefal · 10 Dec 2010 at 01:13

Pixel said:
What was it that governments say when our own privacy is put into question?

"If you haven't done anything wrong, there's no need to worry."

Funny to see what happens when the shoe is on the other foot.

Ever said anything nasty/mean/bad about your boss, co-worker, mates gf behind thier backs?

Do you think anything would improve if someone went and told your co workers this?

Governments aren't some mysterious entity out to **** you over, they are a group of normal people just like you, out to **** you over, just like normal people **** each other over every day.

PermaBanned · 10 Dec 2010 at 01:38

Tefal said:
Governments aren't some mysterious entity out to **** you over, they are a group of normal people just like you, out to **** you over, just like normal people **** each other over every day.

And that's what they need to realize if they ever wish to hope to gain our trust again.

sanaxe1 · 10 Dec 2010 at 11:50

Tefal said:
Ever said anything nasty/mean/bad about your boss, co-worker, mates gf behind thier backs?

Do you think anything would improve if someone went and told your co workers this?

Governments aren't some mysterious entity out to **** you over, they are a group of normal people just like you, out to **** you over, just like normal people **** each other over every day.

Your just not getting it. Maybe a message from a president can put it in a better way.

Wikileaks is not just releasing meaningless stuff. The cables so far :

U.S. Tax Dollars Fund Child Sex Slavery in Afghanistan
The US and China colluded to derail negotiations at the climate conference in Copenhagen last year.
drug giant hired investigators to find evidence of corruption on Nigerian attorney general to persuade him to drop legal action
Witnesses in Burma claim to have seen evidence of secret nuclear and missile sites being built in remote jungle
Shell boasts it has infiltrated Nigerian government

and these are only a few of the 250,000.

Tefal · 10 Dec 2010 at 11:51

sanaxe1 said:
Your just not getting it. Maybe a message from a president can put it in a better way

No, he said it was tit for tat, therefore it must apply to you too other wise you're just being hypocritical.

Cosimo · 10 Dec 2010 at 11:55

Tefal said:
No, he said it was tit for tat, therefore it must apply to you too other wise you're just being hypocritical.

Did you watch the whole video?

PermaBanned · 10 Dec 2010 at 12:56

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Pretty good idea i think, done far more to deserve it than the last recipient did

Castiel · 10 Dec 2010 at 12:58

Superewza said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Pretty good idea i think, done far more to deserve it than the last recipient did

Middlemen getting all the credit...hrumph!

Brian8bit · 10 Dec 2010 at 12:59

Superewza said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Pretty good idea i think, done far more to deserve it than the last recipient did

If Assange released documents about Russia, he'd have been taken to hospital already with radioactive poisoning. Russia can swing on a **** and count themselves lucky classified documents regarding the shocking criminality in their political system hasn't been outed already.

sanaxe1 · 10 Dec 2010 at 13:56

Brian8bit said:
If Assange released documents about Russia, he'd have been taken to hospital already with radioactive poisoning. Russia can swing on a **** and count themselves lucky classified documents regarding the shocking criminality in their political system hasn't been outed already.

You mean the one which was released stating :

Russia has become a virtual "mafia state" with widespread corruption, bribery and protection rackets

The cables, published by the Guardian newspaper, paint a picture of a corrupt Russia centred around the leadership of Mr Putin. Bribery in the political system totals an estimated $300bn (£192bn) a year, the paper says.

PM Vladimir Putin told CNN there may be "political purposes" behind the leaks but they were "no catastrophe".

Brian8bit · 10 Dec 2010 at 14:00

There are no official Russian documents. Only US diplomatic documents. Everyone knows about the here-say. They keep executing reporters who publish the here-say in Russian newspapers.

Pixel · 10 Dec 2010 at 14:08

Superewza said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Pretty good idea i think, done far more to deserve it than the last recipient did

Captain_Slick · 10 Dec 2010 at 14:27

^LOL.

Sp00n · 10 Dec 2010 at 15:47

wikileaks cables show US has done secret alien experiments:

http://www.ding.net/wikileaks/234867.txt

SiD the Turtle · 10 Dec 2010 at 16:13

Sp00n said:
wikileaks cables show US has done secret alien experiments:

http://www.ding.net/wikileaks/234867.txt

Die.

Danthus · 10 Dec 2010 at 22:45

So a man accused of murdering his wife in South Africa was today bailed in this country, one of the reason being his face is now so well known he will not abscond.

Yet man equally as well known on a lesser charge is remanded.