Is "Ryan Cleary" a member of this forum?

NathanE · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:00

LeJosh said:
Is ethical hacking an art Nathan, did you do that at Uni?

Generally speaking, there are far less "true hackers" in the form white hats than black hats. But that's simply because ethical hacking / white hatting has been commercialised. It is practically a job title nowadays. Unethical hacking is always closer to the edge of technology and the "state of the art". It is harder, less well documented, and even probably totally undocumented.

You can study ethical hacking, because it is a documented and repeatable thing. But teaching how to be a black hat is rather impossible. It's like trying to force someone to be an artist, sort of. There's no easy way you just have to learn basically everything about computer science, data structures, operating systems and so forth. Generally any programmer that's done OS-level development to a high level is pretty much a hacker by default; whether they admit it or not.

PermaBanned · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:07

NathanE said:
They're all script kiddies. The lot of them. Don't mistake them for being the real deal, they aren't. The real deal don't mess around with Python and PHP scripts unless they need to. And they'd scoff at using some piece of crap (look at the source code on GitHub) called "LOIC". Real hacking is art and perfectionism. Something that none of these "new-found fame groups" radiate at any level.

The thing is though, most of them know that. Especially Anon. members. If you're trying to get your point across then you do what you can, there's no shame in that.

LeJosh · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:07

I understand.

Generally speaking I'm not full aware of the goings on but systems security is quite interesting to me.

A.N.Other · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:10

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2081566/ryan-clearys-bedroom-exposed-shocking-hacker-den

Little late on the uptake, but still ...

Red_knight · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:11

tl;dr

It's very tidy for a teenager's room that's been turned over by the plod.

NathanE · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:14

If that were a real hackers digs, there'd be programming reference books all over the place. And there'd be no time for games. The aircon can stay though.

PermaBanned · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:15

NathanE said:
If that were a real hackers digs, there'd be programming reference books all over the place. And there'd be no time for games. The aircon can stay though.

Programming reference books? ****, that's the only thing i actually have! And there's literally a bookcase full of them...

Gishee · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:18

PermaBanned said:
Programming reference books? ****, that's the only thing i actually have! And there's literally a bookcase full of them...

lol I think anyone that does any language of programming is going to have reference books

I got a shelf or 2 myself.

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Red_knight · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:19

@PermaBanned

You're nicked, sonny.

Shayper · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:19

Gishee said:
lol I think anyone that does any language of programming is going to have reference books I got a shelf or 2 myself.

New Picture

Haha finally some photoshop!

Only took 3 pages

Deleted member 77746 · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:20

There is no need for this thread to be discussed any more nothing will happen as they won't have evidence. A slap on the hand, questioned and maybe banned from using any computer systems for a year or so. It just creates an atmosphere and something the media can dwell on to the public.

NathanE · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:22

PermaBanned said:
Programming reference books? ****, that's the only thing i actually have! And there's literally a bookcase full of them...

It doesn't automatically make you a hacker

I was just saying that it seems a bit odd that this so-called teenage super-hacker criminal mastermind has literally no programming books in his room, at all.

-|ScottFree|- · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:27

Gishee said:
pfft, everyone knows real hackers use gloves with a wireless mouse on top of a trackpad for a laptop

ROFL... V Funny

A.N.Other · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:27

NathanE said:
It doesn't automatically make you a hacker I was just saying that it seems a bit odd that this so-called teenage super-hacker criminal mastermind has literally no programming books in his room, at all.

Yes, well he also doesn't have a bed. It may well be that *shock* not all of his room is in the photo *shock*!

LeJosh · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:28

Doesn't look like a bedroom any way.

Shayper · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:29

iDroid84 said:
There is no need for this thread to be discussed any more nothing will happen as they won't have evidence. A slap on the hand, questioned and maybe banned from using any computer systems for a year or so. It just creates an atmosphere and something the media can dwell on to the public.

No, only the reams of CP on his PC...

Deleted member 77746 · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:31

Shayper said:
No, only the reams of CP on his PC...

Red_knight · 24 Jun 2011 at 16:47

Also, only one computer?

What sort of self-respecting hacker only has one computer?

Amnesia · 24 Jun 2011 at 17:10

why would he need aircon in a room like that ? no carpet, no wallpaper, i dont even see a radiator.
i think that aircon(possible fake with hidden heater inside) could be growing a cannabis plant in it and the pipe with foil is to get rid of the smell.

I just need Von Smallhausen to go over and check it.

Embed · 24 Jun 2011 at 17:19

Question, are OcUK worried about getting hit? Might not be a target or anything but you have to agree they hold a lot of data because of the large user base.