New ADSL router for bad line

dmsims · 14 Jun 2011 at 22:54

Don't forget the Billion 7700N is coming soon (a basic version of 7800N but same chipset) though it's been delayed again!

DJMK4 · 14 Jun 2011 at 23:19

In my experience the broadcom chipset inside the netgear dg834gt does wonders for me, I'm not on a bad line but iv always trusted them even when i lived in another house it still beat the other manufacturers I tried

Not the most recent but in my eyes still a massive contender

Troop · 14 Jun 2011 at 23:32

DJMK4 said:
In my experience the broadcom chipset inside the netgear dg834gt does wonders for me, I'm not on a bad line but iv always trusted them even when i lived in another house it still beat the other manufacturers I tried

Not the most recent but in my eyes still a massive contender

^^^ Agreed, my 834GT on a long line gives me 47-48db attenuation, tried the Netgear DGN2200 and my attenuation shot up to 55db so it went back!!!!.

Router choice makes a very big difference to you're connection on a long/bad line.

cottoneye · 15 Jun 2011 at 00:05

At my old place I use to use a Netgear DG834N with the DGTeam fw, works great on a high attenuation line. I still have it collecting dust, can post it out to you no charge (apologies to the mods if that's not allowed).

lemzip · 15 Jun 2011 at 01:49

cottoneye said:
At my old place I use to use a Netgear DG834N with the DGTeam fw, works great on a high attenuation line. I still have it collecting dust, can post it out to you no charge (apologies to the mods if that's not allowed).

Im after that model if you fancy a sale and the op doesnt take it

liamcrane · 15 Jun 2011 at 09:42

dmsims said:
Don't forget the Billion 7700N is coming soon (a basic version of 7800N but same chipset) though it's been delayed again!

Thats the router i was looking at being a little bit cheaper than the 7800n i thought it was already out with it being a "lesser" model. Is there any real difference between the two tho with regards to tweaking certain settings?

slipd · 15 Jun 2011 at 13:03

lemzip said:
Im after that model if you fancy a sale and the op doesnt take it

It's all your, my brother has got a 834gt knocking about - I set it up for him a few years back! It was rubbish back then but that was because of the firmware - 1st release :eek:

The 2wire 2700 looks interesting and its a lot cheaper than the billion?

@dmsims - definitely want to hear from you once you've got yours up and running!

Cheers.

lay-z-boy · 15 Jun 2011 at 16:54

It's cheaper for a reason.
No gige, wireless n, ewan, tweaking snr, support, etc.

Broadcom chipsets are pretty much regarded as the best for long/unstable lines, this is why the dg834 is very good as well but is lacking a number of the stability tweaks you get in new chipsets like in the 7700n that has the same line tweaks avalible as the 7800n.

FWIW my neighbour has a 2700 from bt and when I switched him over to a 7800n he got an extra .5 meg and so far, a longer uptime.

Troop · 16 Jun 2011 at 19:56

@dmsims,.... how are you getting on with the 7800N, .... did it lower you're attenuation ?.

cheers

dmsims · 16 Jun 2011 at 23:07

I'll let you know . . . . . . .

16 Jun 2011 01:09:11 PM Exeter Mail Centre Arrival Scan

so delivered tomorrow

See that the Billion 7700n is now being shipped

Troop said:
@dmsims,.... how are you getting on with the 7800N, .... did it lower you're attenuation ?.

cheers

dmsims · 18 Jun 2011 at 10:53

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=19399685#post19399685

slipd · 26 Jun 2011 at 11:04

EVH said:
2wire 2700.

The best modem for long lines bar none. Even on my 6.5Mb line, I see 3dB lower attentuation by switching to the 2700 over my Netgear DG834V4, and the SNR is always 1-2dB better too.

Can pick one up on ebay for £5-20 and it's amazing if you want a "set and forget" modem.

Never had a modem that has managed a higher sync than the 2wire, and I've had all the "best for long lines" ones, when I live with my parents, on a farm in rural Wales.. top speed 2Mb

Hello mate!

A good friend is very kindly donating me his unused/sealed 2700hgv (that's right isn't it?) to have a play around this week - I'll probably still get a billion on pay day

In the meantime though, what sort of stuff should I do to the 2700? Aren't there loads of modded firmware's out there and little tweaks you can perform?

It's weird, but since posting my connection has been rock solid - its as if my dg834g knows its days are numbered

My stats have been stable at 54db (att) and 14db (snr). Hopefully my new kit 2700hgv/7800 should get me more than 1 mb with those figures... hopefully.

=VTA=MANFACE · 26 Jun 2011 at 11:37

sam.wheale said:
Hey guys,

I want to replace my dg834g (v2) and hopefully get something that's a little bit more forgiving with my flaky line… I've had the netgear since 2005 and it's been okay at making the best of a bad situation but in 6 years surely things have moved on a bit in the home router market, and there's a router out there that can do even better at holding a connection down

It'd also be good to get a router with faster wifi –pretty much off of the devices in my house now (and those of visitors) use technology beyond 54g.

So, what should I be looking at? I need stability/reliability and current gen wifi.

Cheers!

Billion 7800N ***.

Great router, you won't be disappointed. Never heard of them till I saw the reviews on them. The firmware gets updated quite regularly, 1.06d this month with IPv6.

Release notes.

BIPAC 7800NV6 / 7800GZ
v1.06d
(1th of June, 2011)
Generic Release Note

New Features:
1. Add the 1-1 NAT TR069 objects.
2. Add the web access control page.
3. Add the IPv6 QoS (7800NV6).
4. Add the PPTP feature (7800NV6).
5. Allow dynamic IPv6 address at the packet filter, QoS page, web access
control page, ..

: at the beginning, the system will add the WAN prefix to
it automatically) (7800NV6).
Improvement:
1. Allow the 3G usage larger than 4GB (7800GZ).
2. Change TR069 certification buffer size from 2048 to 4096.
3. Change the system’s default DNS setting from TWN (168.95.1.1) to
google (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4)
Bug Fixed:
1. Fix DHCP pool change will cause fixed IP table error
2. Correct the ADSL SNR unit at the TR069 and web page. The TR069 will
truncate the decimal part.
3. Fix the lifetime broadcast information at the RA packet (meet the real
WAN’s situation). (7800NV6)
4. Fix 3G usage Mail Alert might not send mail at the correct timing
(7800GZ)
Known Issues:
N/A

slipd · 26 Jun 2011 at 19:34

Yep - thanks mate, the 7800n is definitely on the cards, no question. But I'm quite keen to have a look at the 2700hgv in the mean time... see what that can give me!

dmsims · 26 Jun 2011 at 20:18

sam.wheale said:
Yep - thanks mate, the 7800n is definitely on the cards, no question. But I'm quite keen to have a look at the 2700hgv in the mean time... see what that can give me!

You can have mine very cheaply

slipd · 26 Jun 2011 at 20:53

dmsims said:
You can have mine very cheaply

I'm being given a 2700hgv to have a play with until my billion arrives... see a few posts back.

Did you try the 2700hgv as well?

Thanks for the offer anyway!

Kevin-G · 5 Sep 2011 at 17:51

Zarf - I'm trying to set up something similar. A netgear in bridged mose and a Cisco 877 to handle pppoe and routing. Any chance you could post a copy of your Cisco configuration?

Sparx · 5 Sep 2011 at 20:00

Can someone confirm the difference between the Billion BiPAC 7700N and 7800N?

Also, would you prefer the 7700N or the Netgear DGN2000 (on DGteam firmware)?

Thanks

arobertson676 · 5 Sep 2011 at 23:34

7700N has a Broadcom 6338 and and 7800N has a Broadcom 6358. DGN2000 is better than the 7700N as it has a Broadcom 6348.

bulldog147 · 22 Jan 2012 at 03:48

nintenjo said:
I have gone for the Netgear DGND3700 - seems to come up trumps on almost every review site i have found plus it has dual band wireless N which is a must for future proofing.. Not the cheapest at £130 .. but hopefully it should last another 4 years like my last router and be worth the cost in the long run.

I got this Router, cost me £119.99 (save £40 off) from pcworld now.

On my old Netgear DG834N I get:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 14527 kbps 1279 kbps
Line Attenuation 31.0 db 16.0 db
Noise Margin 3.0 db 6.0 db

Now with my new Netgear DGND3700 I get:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 18739 kbps 1300 kbps
Line Attenuation 31.0 db 16.0 db
Noise Margin 3.0 db 6.0 db

A massive huge 4 Megabit extra with this new router with excellent high performance with wi-fi (300Mbps) and BT IP Profile give me 16533k

Very good router and you can even tweak snr too.