Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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Water cannons are good at dispersing massed amounts of people not 30 hoody chavs that decide to smash up Carphonewarehouse in some suburban highstreet.

What do you want 20000 watercannons on every highstreet in every borough??

Some of the crap being said is off the scale.

Nobody's saying it'll magically stop all looting, but it might make enough people think '**** this, I'm going home' to make an actual difference to the situation.
 
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Just one in every 10 police officers is available to tackle crime at any one time despite year-on-year budget increases over the past four decades, a police watchdog warned today.

Let's suppose Police officers work 8 hours a day, work 5 days a week and take 36 days of holiday/sick a year. So that's 47 * 40 hours = 1880 hours. There are 8760 hours in a year. So, even just normal working conditions you'd expect just 1 in 5 officers available to "tackle crime" at any one time. Now factor in time in court, doing normal paperwork, training, interviewing suspects, etc, etc and consider that not all police officers work full time anyway. I don't really see 1 in 10 as much of a damning condemnation.
 
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Why should the police have to put up with this? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456050

Personally, I'd be happy to see anyone caught behaving this way deported. Can't respect our society? Go elsewhere! Suspect these tough chavs would be in tears when they had to wave goodbye to mummy.

Also, I do hope the police have rubber bullets available... Wish they'd use them!


And finally, watch this to see the quality of the people involved in this 'action' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456065
 
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Water cannons are good at dispersing massed amounts of people not 30 hoody chavs that decide to smash up Carphonewarehouse in some suburban highstreet.

What do you want 20000 watercannons on every highstreet in every borough??

Some of the crap being said is off the scale.

Nobody said it was a panacea but surely it would help.

You could add in tear gas and rubber bullets.

See people looting a store? Fire in some tear gas.
 
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Let's suppose Police officers work 8 hours a day, work 5 days a week and take 36 days of holiday/sick a year. So that's 47 * 40 hours = 1880 hours. There are 8760 hours in a year. So, even just normal working conditions you'd expect just 1 in 5 officers available to "tackle crime" at any one time. Now factor in time in court, doing normal paperwork, training, interviewing suspects, etc, etc and consider that not all police officers work full time anyway. I don't really see 1 in 10 as much of a damning condemnation.

Again, the issue is the fall in this number, it used to be much higher. We have seen drops, both in relative and absolute terms, in the number of officers involved in frontline, operational policing, while the total number of officers has increased dramatically.

This is not indicative of a funding problem, but an efficiency problem.
 
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this is the thing do you go in heavy handed force the youngster with proper weapons to use them in retaliation like guns and stuff then it goes to another level people will be killed.

its not a black and white simple way to be dealt with.

basically for now it will just be a force of numbers to overswell them and try and maintain peacefully
 
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We waited to see whether Cameron would order auxilary forces in but he was way too spineless to do that.

His idea of a tough reaction is to recall parliament tomorrow. What a pathetically weak leader.

When it kicks off again tonight, he needs to resign. Weak, old man.
 
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Bring some military ships into the thames
Capture and load looters on to them
Send ships to the middle of the Atlantic
Make all looter scum jump overboard
Wave and laugh at them as they drown
Return to London and repeat
profit???!!
 
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But the linked document within the report makes it clear that this number has fallen year on year...

I don't dispute that you'll never have high efficiency, but why has it been falling as officer numbers have increased? Why, at a time when we have more officers than ever in history, do we have some of the lowest frontline policing numbers, both absolute and relative, in history?

Because we're focusing on many different things. The Met's Operation Trident to reduce violent crime in the black community wouldn't count towards the "Frontline" officers, but they are. The metrics used to make those statistics are misleading.
 
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Army deployed in Glasgow...









"EdinburghTattoo Edinburgh Tattoo
The Royal Edinburgh Military will present a mini Tattoo in Glasgow today. The Parade commences at 12 noon in George Square."

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