Belgium Grand Prix 2011, Spa Circuit - Race 12/19
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Banning the DD was a good move it's halved the following distance.
dRS is not a good compensation, gain huge advantage and keep that advantage until the breaking zone and at some tracks once all read covertaken get another go, to gain an even bigger lead. The whole prinicaple of it is flawed and they should just sort the problems out which they have actually managed to knuckle down on in the last couple of years.
dRS is not a good compensation, gain huge advantage and keep that advantage until the breaking zone and at some tracks once all read covertaken get another go, to gain an even bigger lead. The whole prinicaple of it is flawed and they should just sort the problems out which they have actually managed to knuckle down on in the last couple of years.
(totally un-related post to anything here!)
Just come across this corker, I was actually crying laughing when I saw this last year..
Enjoyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smW9yo-P_zk&feature=related
Brilliant!
Soldato
DRS was meant to get the cars side by side in the braking zone, not to allow a clean overtake on the straight to the point the leading car not even bothers to defend as the other can go around the outside comfortably.
DRS is fine but at Spa the overtakes were too easy and boring.
Soldato
Hamilton might disagree with you there
re DRS i dont agree with the push to pass however i found it much more frustrating watching a faster car stuck following a midfield car for 90% of the race. Its certainly the lesser of two evils.
How many times was Trulli train banded about the last few years!
Caporegime
Aye, but even without DRS that wouldn't be such a problem this year because the DD ban, the return of KERS and the Pirelli tyres have vastly improved the racing. I'd love them to at least try one race with no DRS so we can see what it's like without it.
This year we've seen so many passes away from DRS zones that I'm pretty confident we wouldn't see the same stuck drivers for lap-after-lap unless, of course, those drivers just lack overtaking ability.
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Overtaking stats
Code:
P. Lap. Driver on Driver Position
1. 2 Fernando Alonso Lewis Hamilton 4
2. 2 Michael Schumacher Paul di Resta 13
3. 2 Pastor Maldonado Daniel Ricciardo 16
4. 2 Pastor Maldonado Rubens Barrichello 15
5. 3 Sebastian Vettel Nico Rosberg 1
6. 3 Bruno Senna Timo Glock 21
7. 4 Sergio Perez Sebastien Buemi 6
8. 4 Sebastien Buemi Sergio Perez 6
9. 4 Mark Webber Daniel Ricciardo 15
10. 4 Jenson Button Jarno Trulli 19
11. 5 Fernando Alonso Felipe Massa 3
12. 5 Lewis Hamilton Felipe Massa 4
13. 5 Mark Webber Rubens Barrichello 12
14. 5 Michael Schumacher Vitantonio Liuzzi 16
15. 5 Michael Schumacher Daniel Ricciardo 15
16. 5 Jenson Button Jerome d'Ambrosio 18
17. 5 Jenson Button Vitantonio Liuzzi 17
18. 6 Sebastian Vettel Adrian Sutil 7
19. 6 Jenson Button Daniel Ricciardo 15
20. 7 Fernando Alonso Nico Rosberg 1
21. 7 Sebastian Vettel Vitaly Petrov 6
22. 7 Mark Webber Pastor Maldonado 10
23. 7 Sergio Perez Jarno Trulli 18
24. 8 Lewis Hamilton Nico Rosberg 2
25. 8 Sebastian Vettel Kamui Kobayashi 5
26. 8 Mark Webber Paul di Resta 9
27. 8 Sergio Perez Jerome d'Ambrosio 17
28. 8 Sergio Perez Vitantonio Liuzzi 16
29. 8 Sergio Perez Daniel Ricciardo 15
30. 8 Jerome d'Ambrosio Vitantonio Liuzzi 17
31. 9 Mark Webber Fernando Alonso 8
32. 9 Mark Webber Adrian Sutil 7
33. 9 Jarno Trulli Vitantonio Liuzzi 18
34. 10 Sebastian Vettel Nico Rosberg 2
35. 10 Fernando Alonso Adrian Sutil 7
36. 10 Fernando Alonso Mark Webber 6
37. 10 Michael Schumacher Felipe Massa 12
38. 11 Fernando Alonso Vitaly Petrov 4
39. 11 Fernando Alonso Kamui Kobayashi 3
40. 11 Mark Webber Vitaly Petrov 5
41. 11 Rubens Barrichello Pastor Maldonado 10
42. 12 Mark Webber Kamui Kobayashi 3
43. 12 Lewis Hamilton Adrian Sutil 6
44. 12 Lewis Hamilton Vitaly Petrov 5
45. 12 Michael Schumacher Pastor Maldonado 11
46. 12 Felipe Massa Pastor Maldonado 12
47. 12 Jarno Trulli Jerome d'Ambrosio 17
48. 13 Lewis Hamilton Kamui Kobayashi 4
49. 17 Sebastian Vettel Mark Webber 2
50. 17 Nico Rosberg Felipe Massa 4
51. 17 Vitaly Petrov Sergio Perez 7
52. 17 Michael Schumacher Sergio Perez 8
53. 17 Michael Schumacher Vitaly Petrov 7
54. 17 Sergio Perez Vitaly Petrov 8
55. 17 Jenson Button Rubens Barrichello 10
56. 17 Heikki Kovalainen Vitantonio Liuzzi 18
57. 18 Sebastian Vettel Fernando Alonso 1
58. 18 Jenson Button Vitaly Petrov 9
59. 18 Jenson Button Sergio Perez 8
60. 18 Vitaly Petrov Sergio Perez 9
61. 18 Heikki Kovalainen Jerome d'Ambrosio 17
62. 19 Rubens Barrichello Sergio Perez 10
63. 19 Sergio Perez Rubens Barrichello 10
64. 20 Jarno Trulli Bruno Senna 15
65. 21 Jenson Button Michael Schumacher 7
66. 23 Jenson Button Adrian Sutil 6
67. 23 Bruno Senna Timo Glock 19
68. 23 Bruno Senna Vitantonio Liuzzi 18
69. 24 Jenson Button Felipe Massa 5
70. 24 Sergio Perez Timo Glock 19
71. 24 Sergio Perez Vitantonio Liuzzi 18
72. 25 Bruno Senna Jerome d'Ambrosio 16
73. 25 Sergio Perez Jerome d'Ambrosio 17
74. 25 Timo Glock Vitantonio Liuzzi 19
75. 26 Jenson Button Nico Rosberg 4
76. 26 Pastor Maldonado Rubens Barrichello 10
77. 27 Sergio Perez Bruno Senna 16
78. 30 Bruno Senna Heikki Kovalainen 15
79. 31 Rubens Barrichello Nico Rosberg 7
80. 31 Nico Rosberg Rubens Barrichello 7
81. 31 Kamui Kobayashi Jarno Trulli 13
82. 32 Sebastian Vettel Jenson Button 1
83. 32 Felipe Massa Michael Schumacher 5
84. 33 Kamui Kobayashi Felipe Massa 11
85. 33 Felipe Massa Kamui Kobayashi 11
86. 34 Michael Schumacher Adrian Sutil 6
87. 36 Felipe Massa Paul di Resta 10
88. 37 Mark Webber Fernando Alonso 2
89. 38 Felipe Massa Pastor Maldonado 9
90. 42 Jenson Button Fernando Alonso 3
91. 42 Michael Schumacher Nico Rosberg 5
P. Driver Overtaking
1. Jenson Button 12
2. Sergio Perez 11
3. Mark Webber 9
4. Michael Schumacher 9
5. Sebastian Vettel 8
6. Fernando Alonso 7
7. Lewis Hamilton 5
8. Felipe Massa 5
9. Bruno Senna 5
10. Jarno Trulli 3
11. Rubens Barrichello 3
12. Pastor Maldonado 3
13. Kamui Kobayashi 2
14. Nico Rosberg 2
15. Heikki Kovalainen 2
16. Vitaly Petrov 2
17. Jerome d'Ambrosio 1
18. Sebastien Buemi 1
19. Timo Glock 1Soldato
Middle of P3.
Rain comes down, all the cars go in, nothing happening on track and I'm getting very wet.
At first I was like:
*picsnip*
But then, when I realised I was on TV, I was like:
*picsnip*
Heh, nice one Skeeter
Yep.Shame I spent the first few seconds looking like a right miserable git on international TV
Shame I spent the first few seconds looking like a right miserable git on international TV
All the crowd looked like that until the camera was on them
why do over taking stats never count the first lap? they are still over taken even if its off the grid
schumcher over took like 5 people at the first corner , 1 person before eau rouge , 2 people after eau rouge
im sure a lot of other people over took cars on the first few corners aswell ive never understood why they never count first lap over takes even ones that arent on the actual grid...
Equally, they count overtakes in the pits. Its all a bit missleading.
I mean, Schumacher went from 24th to 5th, with 9 overtakes.... apparently...
They should count ALL on track overtakes for position, only.
Not really imo - because the driver in the pits doesnt actually do anything
Just as if a pitting car loses loads of places due to a team foul up - those on the track may gain a place (and nothing wrong with that per se) but to list it as an actual overtake is wrong too
Soldato
Has this link been posted ?
http://www.uploads.gaming-resources.com/files/1757_dxikv/Webber_1920x1200.jpg
http://www.uploads.gaming-resources.com/files/1757_dxikv/Webber_1920x1200.jpg