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The new Nvidia cards need to arrive ASAP .... Then I can enjoy some hassle free gaming.
Honestly I find the argument that since most games don't use 2GB of VRAM today more is pointless to be silly. Firstly it doesn't seem to actually be true, or if it is its only by a slim margin. Secondly I am not planning on upgrading every generation; I want my GPU to last as long as it can. Just because 2GB may be satisfactory today does not mean that it will be tomorrow.
http://news.techeye.net/chips/nvidias-kepler-suffers-wobbly-perturbations
Not looking good for nvidia getting things out sooner rather than later. Sounds like a waste of time to me.
Such as? Are we talking about Metro or something else??
That would be a monumental failure if they release Kepler around the time the 8000's are ready.
not if they can compete with the 8000's
http://news.techeye.net/chips/nvidias-kepler-suffers-wobbly-perturbations
Not looking good for nvidia getting things out sooner rather than later. Sounds like a waste of time to me.
So 600 is a Fermi shrink and 700 is Kepler....oh dear....
Thats a load of rubbish tbh - possibly as its so laughably wrong put out to see who is passing off information without understanding it.
"Some industry watchers suggest that Nvidia gave up a lot of space on its chip, trying to buff up Kepler by bringing Ageia to the hardware."
PhysX takes up no additional space on the die if its supported or not.
"But the murmurs suggest Nvidia has been dedicating a lot of resources to get physics and fluid dynamics operating properly, which has so far, allegedly, taken half of its gaming engineers and six months to get right."
These are not fixed function hardware features but ran on the CUDA cores with no specific hardware modification required - the software implementation of PhysX which includes fluid dynamics is fully done and has been done and dusted for a very long time now - there may be some specific opptimisations to increase fluid dynamic simulation performance I'm not sure on that but that would be entirely incidental to the development of Kepler.
While Nvidia's implementation of Physx isn't hardware specific, you're wrong to say that Physx can't be fixed function, just because you CAN run something on software controlled shaders with Cuda doesn't mean it can't be magnitudes faster done on specific accelerated hardware.
Considering Nvidia is getting big into GPGPU and there are PLENTY of companies out there who could use acceleration for things like physics and specifically stuff like fuild dynamic's.
Sticking dedicated hardware to accelerate specific functions could massively increase the effective speed of a card in situations that could use them.
My 7970 uses 1.7gb ram on BF3 in MP @ ultra settings at 1920x1080, so at 2560x1600 it would use more than 2gb at a guess.
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While its unlikely, don't forget there have been a couple rumours that Nvidia are going to make "wall street look like Ghadi" with some upcoming games..... with the implication being they have some big "sabotage the opposition" plans coming.
Charlie said:This time around, Nvidia's games are going to make Wall Street look look like Ghandi. I am in shock.
-Charlie
Drunkenmaster said:Charlie said:This time around, Nvidia's games are going to make Wall Street look look like Ghandi. I am in shock.
-Charlie
Does that mean you're hearing about a lot of Nvidia sabotage in games, IE removing or slowing features for AMD< or more like paying for even more games to have basic crap removed and re-added with slow Physx coding?
Well yes it does... Physics computations are parallel floating-point operations. If you want to perform floating point operations with a GPU then you will be using the shader cores. That's the way GPUs perform floating-point arithmetic. The precise description of ANY computation is described by software, and executed by the shader cores.
... Unless you're suggesting that Nvidia are reverting back to a pre-8800GTX design that reintroduces fixed-function logic for MADD operations?
So you see, the key to the successful application of CFD on a commercial scale lies mainly in software. We have been developing code for serial and small-scale parallel CPU clusters for 30 years now. The algorithms for efficient massively-parallel computations, GPGPU style, are lagging well behind the hardware.
There are, of course, improvements to be made on the hardware side. But, for the purposes of improving existing CFD simulations this is an exercise in general compute efficiency. It's about executing threads more efficiently, and passing data between parallel threads more rapidly. These are the things both AMD and Nvidia are looking to bring to their compute-oriented architectures.
... And just to help you keep track, this is another one of those times that you're talking rubbish about things you don't remotely understand (re this discussion).
HAHAHAHAHA talk about trying to push an agenda and blowing your own trumpet..
So the alleged rumours that "Nvidia are going to make "wall street look like Ghadi" with some upcoming games" was first suggested by Charlie Demerjian, who frankly, is a joke.... And THEN they were, in true AMD-Crusader style, interpreted by DrunkenMaster as "have some big "sabotage the opposition" plans coming."...
Despite hearing no confirmation of this, he proceeds to assume that it has now become fact, and then now talks about these reported rumours (THAT HE HIMSELF INVENTED!) like it were confirmed and irrefutable fact.
This time around, Nvidia's games are going to make Wall Street look look like Ghandi. I am in shock.
-Charlie
While its unlikely, don't forget there have been a couple rumours that Nvidia are going to make "wall street look like Ghadi" with some upcoming games..... with the implication being they have some big "sabotage the opposition" plans coming.
This time around, Nvidia's games are going to make Wall Street look look like Ghandi. I am in shock.
-Charlie