Maybe this is over your head, but there is a difference between the appreciation of boobies and boobies which are used to sell something.The day a thread full of men complained about boobies.
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I honestly don't know what to say to that.
Modelling and prostitution do not go hand in hand.
Rapes will happen no matter what people wear
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If a black man rapes a woman then you are right the suspects will all be black.
Unhealthily skinny models (not the physically fit ones being discussed here) contribute to eating disorders.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Tony in my sig.
Have you not looked through a woman's magazine, it is full of topless men who live in the gym and use liberal amounts of fake tan, no different to a men's mag for example.
I think you are getting fixated on key words rather than look at the point, which was what one group of women may do actually influences the perception of the whole (gender)
Models are in general thinner than average, trying to reach that weight level can cause girls to fixate on food (not entirely, control issues are also connected)
I don't really want to debate a whole lot of sub issues, I think my posts so far are pretty straightforward.
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I think its a shame the OP is not around to comment. "fire and forget" perhaps?
Prostitution has nothing to do with the use of models tbh. It is out of context for this thread.
For the record, I thought the Fools were great
I was only commenting on the possible direction of advertising.
Prostitution has nothing to do with the use of models tbh. It is out of context for this thread.
For the record, I thought the Fools were great
I was only commenting on the possible direction of advertising.
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Sex sells, It's a common sales technique thats been used for years, Hardware, Cars, deodorant and aftershave, Grooming Products. Generally anything aimed at men. ......Is that over your head?
see #364
I don't want to keep explaining the same stuff all the time, none of this is complicated.
That make you the 'John' then, see the inference here?
Hmm, in fairness, nuts sells nakedness (I honestly don't know what this magazine is about
), but Cosmopolitan sells sex toys and very pro female agenda's at the expense of men. (I know because one of my flat mates used to read them)I don't think a lot of women help themselves, or for that matter want to. For example most of my friends who are girls I do not see "eye to eye" on quite a lot of issues. They are very sexually liberal and hold values that I do not ascribe to. Obviously it's completely their choice, but I personally do not agree with them. You can't sleep with 20 guys and then complain that blokes don't "show you respect".
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Boobies are boobies tbh.
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I'm not saying it sells the product to someone looking, What it can do is sell the product to someone who isnt.
for example. A man spots a poster due to boobies(which you know, generally does happen) See's an offer on something he needs yet wasn't considering purchasing from that particular retailer.
Boobies + The offer = Sale
Yep it's probably wrong to stereotype a group dependant on what a magazine house chooses to push at them, although I do remember when Cosmopolitan was a general interest magazine rather than a cross between a sex guide and a metro male psychology study.Hmm, in fairness, nuts sells nakedness (I honestly don't know what this magazine is about
Yep, there is a danger of putting people onto pedestals here.
Ironic that if teenage boys are requesting porn star attributes it's hardly fair to moan when they get the porn star mindset too
Being a virgin twice only works for Madonna.A German tabloid, Bild, recently dropped it's topless girls from the front page, presumably to recover a female readership, so for OcUK to do the opposite is a bit anachronistic, it's not like women don't play games or anything.
Anyway I don't want to make a crusade here, it's a minor point of principle which most people would make if they thought a group was being singled out. People make way more fuss over racism and I can't bring myself to care over that tbh
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This. It grabs attention, regardless of the product. If you can't draw people to the product, they're not going to even look.
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HIGH HORSES
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From a long-time poster/lurker and female, it feels like OcUK is treading a fine line.
Yes, the forum is dark blue, with macho avatars.
Yes, there's the tongue-in-cheek images of sexy ladies on monitors (that's always amused me).
Yes there are occasional babe threads.
All the above has always been fine. But something has changed away from the tongue-in-cheek and into perv territory.
It's only a slight swing, but OcUK has gone from a place that I have for years felt comfortable with participating in, and where the moderation (despite thinking it strict at times) team has kept up a sense of decorum - to an increasingly uncomfortable, sexist, racist, homophobic place.
Adding booth babes (which I thought had already become unfashionable at these shows? Maybe it depends on the show) and actively encouraging posting of more and more boobs only makes me feel less comfortable.
Maybe over the years I have become more aware of skewed attitudes?
I certainly think I am no longer OcUK's target demographic. If I ever was. It appears to have narrowed.
I have largely been hanging out in Photography and Video but since some of the respected members have ceased to post there, maybe it's time to go.
Yes, the forum is dark blue, with macho avatars.
Yes, there's the tongue-in-cheek images of sexy ladies on monitors (that's always amused me).
Yes there are occasional babe threads.
All the above has always been fine. But something has changed away from the tongue-in-cheek and into perv territory.
It's only a slight swing, but OcUK has gone from a place that I have for years felt comfortable with participating in, and where the moderation (despite thinking it strict at times) team has kept up a sense of decorum - to an increasingly uncomfortable, sexist, racist, homophobic place.
Adding booth babes (which I thought had already become unfashionable at these shows? Maybe it depends on the show) and actively encouraging posting of more and more boobs only makes me feel less comfortable.
Maybe over the years I have become more aware of skewed attitudes?
I certainly think I am no longer OcUK's target demographic. If I ever was. It appears to have narrowed.
I have largely been hanging out in Photography and Video but since some of the respected members have ceased to post there, maybe it's time to go.
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Fixed.
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It is always sad when a company decides to go down the old route of showing skimpy wearing females to advertise their goods. I see it as very unprofessional and very tacky these days.
That's because it's only effective in two areas. Chasing the pink pound or stupid women.
Most women i know in real life look at the CK style male models and just laugh as it looks ridiculous. To them they are not real men a very few women think they look sexy at all.
They gave it a fair go in the 90's with CK ad's all over the place for aftershave and underwear but notice now you hardly see them? That because it simply doesn't work. Men don't want be associated to the faggness(TM) of male models so they stay away from brands that push said image.
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Any of the other big pc suppliers / components use half naked women to advertise?
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