Arrested for posting pictures

Zefan · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:20

jamief said:
Don't be absurd. Protecting moral standards in society is hugely important - the guy is a complete ****. As soon as we allow things like this to pass, you end up with places like Westboro Baptist Church picketing the funerals of dead soldiers and breaking no laws. As a society we should stand up for what is right.

But offense is completely subjective.

http://www.thatvideosite.com/v/2822

wildman · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:20

is there a new crime now call 'Bell Endery' that you can be arrested for ?

All this geeser is guilty of is being a prize bell end, nothing more, nothing less, certainly not worth expedning police time and resource on nicking him.

estebanrey · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:22

jamief said:
Don't be absurd. Protecting moral standards in society is hugely important - the guy is a complete ****. As soon as we allow things like this to pass, you end up with places like Westboro Baptist Church picketing the funerals of dead soldiers and breaking no laws. As a society we should stand up for what is right.

You sound no different to the Pakistan Taliban when they were justifying shooting that girl. They were just upholding "moral" values in their society.

So you see it can go both ways, you fear Westboro Baptist Church who are disgusting but otherwise harmless wackos whereas I fear 'social values' being enforced legally and through force which ultimately leads to oppression.

steve-h · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:22

HAHA some people have actually convinced themselves that kidnapping a man is better than burning a poppy

krooton · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:22

jamief said:
Don't be absurd. Protecting moral standards in society is hugely important - the guy is a complete ****. As soon as we allow things like this to pass, you end up with places like Westboro Baptist Church picketing the funerals of dead soldiers and breaking no laws. As a society we should stand up for what is right.

Define 'what is right'.

krooton · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:23

steve-h said:
HAHA some people have actually convinced themselves that kidnapping a man is better than a picture of a burning poppy

FTFY

estebanrey · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:24

elmarko1234 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Have fun.

Nice try. How about you quote me properly next time?

We are in danger of becoming leftwing fascists at this rate.

becoming = something that you currently aren't

fas·cism [fash-iz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism

..looks like we're heading that way to me. If arresting poppy burners isn't "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism" I don't know what is.

Cosimo · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:24

The police should be done for wasting police time.

Burnsy2023 · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:26

King Damager said:
Incredibly disrespectful, but theoretically has a right to do it.

The right to freedom of expression isn't absolute.

CaNsA · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:27

jamief said:
Protecting moral standards in society is hugely important

I think it is morally wrong to inflict ones morals upon someone else.
If I disagree with what someone says, or their actions, then it is my problem and I have to deal with it and that goes both ways.

Do you tip-toe around life censoring yourself to such an extent that you suppress your personality in fear of offending someone?

wildman · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:28

krooton said:
Define 'what is right'.

I don't think thats possible to answer, as there is no hard and fast right. One mans moral compass does not necessarilly point in the same direction as anothers. Therefore saying that something is right or something is not acceptable is subjective based on numerous factors

krooton · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:29

wildman said:
I don't think thats possible to answer, as there is no hard and fast right. One mans moral compass does not necessarilly point in the same direction as anothers. Therefore saying that something is right or something is not acceptable is subjective based on numerous factors

Which is why I posed what I posted.

CaNsA · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:32

krooton said:
Define 'what is right'.

The pursuit of that definition created this guano society.

"So that no-one is offended lets say everything is wrong."

~Divine~Wind~ · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:33

Utter waste of time.

Next up: New Government initiative to prevent opinions!

jamief · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:35

estebanrey said:
You sound no different to the Pakistan Taliban when they were justifying shooting that girl. They were just upholding "moral" values in their society.

So you see it can go both ways, you fear Westboro Baptist Church who are disgusting but otherwise harmless wackos whereas I fear 'social values' being enforced legally and through force which ultimately leads to oppression.

I'm not advocating a totalitarian state - I'm simply saying that the correct action was taken in this case. His behaviour would be morally repugnant to the majority of people in this country, and he is in clear breach of the Communications Act 2003.

We've seen a huge erosion in moral values in this country in the past 100 years - I'm not prescribing state run moral values, but I think there should be action available to the police / CPS in cases of gross moral outrage. The guy peeing on the cenotaph, for example.

elmarko · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:35

estebanrey said:
Nice try. How about you quote me properly next time?

becoming = something that you currently aren't

..looks like we're heading that way to me. If arresting poppy burners isn't "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism" I don't know what is.

I didn't imply you said we had already become one.

Just that left-wing ideology & fascism are not really compatible, not to mention the only "left wing" political party in the UK is the Green party (Who would actually be more likely to protect free speech).

wildman · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:35

~Divine~Wind~ said:
Utter waste of time.

Next up: New Government initiative to prevent opinions!

somewhere George Orwel must be ****ing himself with Laughter, saying I wrote about this and warned you this **** was going down !!

ince · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:36

good people think they can say and do whatever they like.

well that is not the case. see recent twitter arrests, this case etc etc.

steve-h · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:37

jamief said:
I'm not advocating a totalitarian state - I'm simply saying that the correct action was taken in this case. His behaviour would be morally repugnant to the majority of people in this country, and he is in clear breach of the Communications Act 2003.

We've seen a huge erosion in moral values in this country in the past 100 years - I'm not prescribing state run moral values, but I think there should be action available to the police / CPS in cases of gross moral outrage. The guy peeing on the cenotaph, for example.

Could you talk me through how you came to the conclusion that it's more moral to kidnap somebody than to burn a poppy please?

KaiserDJG · 12 Nov 2012 at 12:38

its more a case of disruping the peace, its like burning a quran, its going to get people angry.

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