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It's a well knowen scam, it's one of those kits you can buy on ebay, it's just electrolysis and takes more power than it gives out.

http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho.shtml

But the op, after doing no reserch belives it and it couldn't possibly be a scam.

Yes because quite clearly the guy I linked bought a kit. Not the fact that from his first vid to his last was a space of 2 years. Bit of a waste of time dont you think if it was all lies?
 
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Yes because quite clearly the guy I linked bought a kit. Not the fact that from his first vid to his last was a space of 2 years. Bit of a waste of time dont you think if it was all lies?

Waste of time for 99% of us. But then there people like you who don't even have a GCSE grasp of science and fall for it. Thousands of kits are sold on ebay, so no it is not a waste of time, it's a lucrative scam.
 
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Water powered utilising hydrogen ie hydrogen power ie hydrogen fuel is same same in my eyes. Maybe some mechanics are different but that is all technicalities which you are picking at. I dont think you know anything about these technologies..

The first law of thermodynamics is not a technicality! You obviously don't understand enough about physics to understand why a perpetual motion machine (which is effectively what you are talking about) is impossible.
 

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Yes because quite clearly the guy I linked bought a kit. Not the fact that from his first vid to his last was a space of 2 years. Bit of a waste of time dont you think if it was all lies?

You're missing the fact that it is not physically (read scientifically) possible. :rolleyes:
 
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I think its retarded that people live in little bubbles believing everything they watch and read on the news. And I think also, its quite sad when people dont realise that they defend such an unbelievably corrupt system which is only out to get them. Its the equivalent of punching yourself in the face in a fist fight with someone else.

Do you know what's retarded? Conspiracy theorists and their ilk. Trying to reason with them is like trying to reason with the religious. Eventually, they stick their fingers in their ears and start proclaiming "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" or they start screaming about how you're in on the conspiracy to.

The most insulting thing about conspiracy theorists is how many more people are far more knowledgable in particular fields than they will ever be. That's why they've got the PhD in that field and aren't making videos on youtube or believe everything they've watched on youtube or read on Alex Jones website. It's insulting to everyone who has ever put the work in to get where they are in their field. It's insulting to insinuate that those people, who've devoted their entire lives to understanding how something in their field works, are somehow in on some great conspiracy to keep it hidden from a minority of tin foil hat wearing retards.

Everything Carl Sagan said was a lie. He was a lizard man keeping unlimited energy suppressed to keep the oil companies in business.
 
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The first law of thermodynamics is not a technicality! You obviously don't understand enough about physics to understand why a perpetual motion machine (which is effectively what you are talking about) is impossible.

Whoever said anything about perpetual motion?

Apparently a battery is used in the engine.

You're missing the fact that it is not physically (read scientifically) possible. :rolleyes:

How can you even say that it is 'impossible'. That is the most ridiculous load of crap ive ever heard.
 
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I'm from the side of the fence that believes there's more life out there than we think, however complex and intelligent life will be much much rarer.

I also think that a sufficiently advanced alien species wouldn't necessarily give a **** about a species like us at this point in our brief civilization. We'd be seen as nothing more than an ant hill. I don't think they'd feel compelled to squat down near us and try to communicate with an extremely dumb and aggressive animal, I doubt they'd want to give us stuff. It's more likely that if such a species, which to us would appear god-like, where to appear one day it'd be to remove us or at the very least cull us as some sort of experiment or as a resource.

Who knows, we might have already been observed in some sort of "potential for advancement" program. Perhaps we're the most common sort of "base intelligent" life out there, mammals that often appear for only brief amounts of time before going out in a self-destructive bang. We like to think of ourselves as special and find it difficult to understand why another species wouldn't possibly want to talk to us, it's really quite remarkable the level of arrogance that we hold. In a way, finding life out there would be a good lesson in humility for us as a species.

Personally I don't think we'll ever contact another civilization. What might happen is, as we advance (if we don't kill ourselves before hand) we might develop instruments strong enough that "pick up" signs of intelligent life- like the residual effects of a 'hyperspace motorway' which passes within a measurable distance from us.
 
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Do you know what's retarded? Conspiracy theorists and their ilk. Trying to reason with them is like trying to reason with the religious. Eventually, they stick their fingers in their ears and start proclaiming "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" or they start screaming about how you're in on the conspiracy to.

The most insulting thing about conspiracy theorists is how many more people are far more knowledgable in particular fields than they will ever be. That's why they've got the PhD in that field and aren't making videos on youtube or believe everything they've watched on youtube or read on Alex Jones website. It's insulting to everyone who has ever put the work in to get where they are in their field. It's insulting to insinuate that those people, who've devoted their entire lives to understanding how something in their field works, are somehow in on some great conspiracy to keep it hidden from a minority of tin foil hat wearing retards.

Everything Carl Sagan said was a lie. He was a lizard man keeping unlimited energy suppressed to keep the oil companies in business.

And honestly, this is just silly. Im listening, and yes a lot of conspiracy theorists are idiots aka David icke.

See that is the problem with non conspiracy theorists. You lable everyone the same. Lizard believing tin foil wearing freaks. Well actually, I lable blind puppets as retards who by believing in everything theyre told will achieve nothing useful.
 
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And honestly, this is just silly. Im listening, and yes a lot of conspiracy theorists are idiots aka David icke.

See that is the problem with non conspiracy theorists. You lable everyone the same. Lizard believing tin foil wearing freaks. Well actually, I lable blind puppets as retards who by believing in everything theyre told will achieve nothing useful.

You're not listening though. You've been told repeatedly it's ********. And yet you're still rabbiting on about how it's not. Despite the fact the whole scam was run through the courts.

If you're listening, you're only listening to what you want to hear. You label people blind puppet retards for believing in everything they're told (which you do)? As opposed to blind puppet retards who spend their life getting degrees in specialised fields and becoming experts in those fields who know considerably more than you?
 
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Whoever said anything about perpetual motion?

Apparently a battery is used in the engine.

Perpetual motion because you split water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burn the hydrogen in oxygen which turns it back into water. There is no way to do this in an energy neutral way, never mind getting enough out to power a car.

If it does indeed contain a battery you'd be better off using the battery to drive the car via an electric motor. Better thermal efficiency that way.
 
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Whoever said anything about perpetual motion?


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You did, by linking to these things, have you got any idea what the **** you are on about? Ie getting something for nothing.

These things are powered by the engine, through electrolysis convert water to hydrogen and then feed that hydrogen/oxygen into the engine air take. Supposedly increasing mpg from petrol as its now using some hydrogen. But it's all completely rubbish. As you're pulling energy out of the engine to create hydrogen. Then there's the whole thing on engines and in modern cars the electronics not being designed for hydrogen. In no way do you increase mpg.
 

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I've found something that may satisfy the OP.

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You're not listening though. You've been told repeatedly it's ********. And yet you're still rabbiting on about how it's not. Despite the fact the whole scam was run through the courts.

If you're listening, you're only listening to what you want to hear. You label people blind puppet retards for believing in everything they're told (which you do)? As opposed to blind puppet retards who spend their life getting degrees in specialised fields and becoming experts in those fields who know considerably more than you?

My word. The water power uses a battery so its not perpetual. Please at least do some research on all these 'conspiracies' and see the amount of experts in their fields who back up these 'conspiracy' claims.

Its not just backyard engineers who believe a lot of this stuff. Its intelligent folk with degrees and respectful jobs.

And wow, seriously. The courts are corrupt as **** and if you cannot see that then I dont really know what to say.

Just do some of your own research, not one crappy video made with some awful commentary. Check out the freedom movie, or zeitgiest. Theres many.
 
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I'm rather interested in the possibility of harnessing the power (or anti-power :p) of antimatter, and how it may be linked to theoretical white holes. I'm writing a thesis on it at the moment, I just have no idea of the mathematics involved.

As for aliens, well, who knows?
 
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The most insulting thing about conspiracy theorists is how many more people are far more knowledgable in particular fields than they will ever be. That's why they've got the PhD in that field and aren't making videos on youtube or believe everything they've watched on youtube or read on Alex Jones website.

If I post a link to someone with a PhD who has investigated and confirmed the use of free energy technology, will you consider it?
 

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The problem is, salami, you are presenting a lot of these ideas as plain fact. When in actuality, several of us have explained, in some detail, how and why these ideas are not feasible, or in some cases, even possible. You can't read these posts as information and instead take them as a personal attack against you and your ideologies. If you actually took a step back and read what we have to say, and done some of your own "research" rather than relying on Youtube videos, conspiracies and heresay (odd, I thought you were accusing us of doing that? Small world...) you may actually grasp what we are putting across to you.

It also comes across that you don't understand the fundamental principles presented by the arguments you are using - perpetual motion is entirely relevant in this instance.

Also, for the record, it's spelt label.
 
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Give it up, even Stanley himself contradicted himself a number of times. He was a scam artists as shown. His devices was never tested, it was never shown to work. He contradicted himself, he lost in court.
And yet you still belive it, you really are gullible.
 
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Give it up, even Stanley himself contradicted himself a number of times. He was a scam artists as shown. His devices was never tested, it was never shown to work. He contradicted himself, he lost in court.
And yet you still belive it, you really are gullible.

Ok then. I was expecting these militant responses anyways. Was fun anyways. Have a good day.
 
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