Wow...someone sounds bitter.
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Wow...someone sounds bitter.
Soldato
I attempted teaching, it was an awful experience, please do not consider teaching!
Low pay, long hours, badly behaved children, too many women in the profession leads to bitchyness and gossip.
I went back to the private sector to earn more money and keep my sanity.
Low pay, long hours, badly behaved children, too many women in the profession leads to bitchyness and gossip.
I went back to the private sector to earn more money and keep my sanity.
Unfortunately the GTP course is being discontinued after this year. The whole training process is getting a bit of a mix up this year, there's still several ways to get qualified, but sadly I do not think any of them pay as well as the GTP did.
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Is Teach First still an option?
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My advice would be to search around for 'thinking of teaching' days that certain schools put on. My school does this several times a year, you get to sit in the classroom and observe lessons taking place. Before changing your entire career I would seriously advise looking at this and deciding if it's for you. A lot of teacher training courses stipulate that you undertake X number of hours in school before being accepted onto the course.
I have been a secondary school IT/Computing teacher (11 - 18) for six years this year. I did a PGCE fresh from coming out of University. The PGCE was hard, as was the first couple of years of teaching, however as you get more experienced in the role it becomes more and more straightforward.
Children are given bad press in this country. I genuinely enjoy my job and if you find the right school for you, it can be really enjoyable working with all age ranges of students.
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When i'm older i wouldn't mind teaching computers. From what ive seen of it you just have to get a teaching qualification which takes a few years.
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Excellent.
Couldn't be any more stereotypically misinformed if you tried.I'd have to agree with craptakular's assessment, OP. My wife is a teacher who tries very, very hard. Works all hours of the week for what I consider very little pay compared to the effort put in, and is regularly one of the last teaching staff to leave the premises (before continuing work at home). That's not even to mention the unruly, ungrateful children and their equally disrepectful parents.
Then there's of course the bitchiness, backstabbing, stress of uniformity in teaching expected in a completely dynamic environment (eg. when the head-in-the-clouds Ofsted inspectors are in), and the constant picking up of slack from other teachers and middle management who have absolutely no problem leaving their own responsibilities to someone they know will do it simply because they care, while being happy enough to throw them to the wolves when something goes wrong through no fault of their own.
You couldn't pay me enough to even consider it, extra holidays be damned.
Yet -- She still likes it to a degree. She likes making an impact on the lives of these children and their successes really make her day. Disenfranchisement is setting in though, I think. How much of that is to do with the culture surrounding the other teachers rather than the profession itself, I cannot say.
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Just to add to what everyone else has said PGCE or Cert Ed. are your routes in but the rules I believe have changed you can now only teach your subject specialism i.e. the highest level of qualification you have. Mine is a HND in Business Information Technology, so I can only teach IT, I couldn't go teach Maths or Chemistry.
I did my Cert Ed. a few years back and I have been teaching techie based IT stuff at an local FE college for a good number of years.
Working in FE non of the school perks apply, we are given a set number of holidays which can only be taken outside of term time. I order to fill my classes I also to two evening classes until 9pm.
I really enjoy the teaching and interaction with my learners but the paperwork and red tape can really get me down.
As someone has already mentioned - teaching is lifestyle not a job, its not for everyone and the early years are the worse.
I did my Cert Ed. a few years back and I have been teaching techie based IT stuff at an local FE college for a good number of years.
Working in FE non of the school perks apply, we are given a set number of holidays which can only be taken outside of term time. I order to fill my classes I also to two evening classes until 9pm.
I really enjoy the teaching and interaction with my learners but the paperwork and red tape can really get me down.
As someone has already mentioned - teaching is lifestyle not a job, its not for everyone and the early years are the worse.
Your name rings true, You are a big white dog. You know nothing of the profession.
You must be one of those parents who hates teachers because they get set holidays... Yet has no idea what they do in those weeks away from the school.
Its not having a holiday i can tell you that
Oh god thats true!
I find it amazing how much work the missus has to do -.-
She has a degree in Early Years and a early years PGCE so has to do reception - year 2
She loves it though
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Yup this time of year its all about getting them over the finishing line for me and a whole shed load of marking as well as trying to write course materials for September, pass my CCNA and interview students.
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On a positive note: definitely recommend contacting some local schools seeing if you can get any opportunities for observing lessons. Perhaps try to follow that up with some LSA work to get a feel of the classroom environment, before applying for any teaching training.
With the pgce, a lot depends on the schools you are placed in - they can make or break you.
I just finished mine, although am going to be moving to a different profession.
I have to respect any teacher in the current system - its an unbelievably demanding job, and I couldn't do it myself at the moment. It's good to see some comments that it gets easier after a few years, but the hurdle of the initial years is a learning curve like a brick wall.
As I recall one member of staff saying - "it's a miserable profession if you're not at the top of your game."
Edit: I should say, you have to be OCD with organisation.
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Wife is a teacher, she would agree. Especially in primary school. Furthermore in certain parts of the country there is massive oversubscription of teachers. She went in for one post and there were 200+ applicants.
I feel bad posting negative comments towards your dream. Would rather be honest though.
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I love the job. Just finishing my primary PGCE. Absolutely loving it. Get yourself a few days in a classroom. Find yourself a challenging school with real children
set yourself up good and proper, if it is what you want go for it. But please be 100% sure it is what you want.
Soldato
There's 2 types of teachers:
Those who live to teach
And those who work to teach
Those who are giving negative feedback about long hours and rubbish pay, clearly have OH's who are the one's who live to teach rather than just treating it as a job.
I know plenty of teachers, and they don't need to work from 7:30 til 6pm, provided you are efficient and plan ahead there is no need to work long hours.
Most of the teachers when I was at school would do their markings while we watched videos or had to read a book. And would always leave the school at 3:30pm every day. They were still very good teachers, just didn't take their job as seriously as some do.
Those who live to teach
And those who work to teach
Those who are giving negative feedback about long hours and rubbish pay, clearly have OH's who are the one's who live to teach rather than just treating it as a job.
I know plenty of teachers, and they don't need to work from 7:30 til 6pm, provided you are efficient and plan ahead there is no need to work long hours.
Most of the teachers when I was at school would do their markings while we watched videos or had to read a book. And would always leave the school at 3:30pm every day. They were still very good teachers, just didn't take their job as seriously as some do.