Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

AGD · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:10

Haha. I can't believe anyone thought that chelsea would offer mata + money for rooney. And that if such a deal were on the table, that man u would reject it. It's totally preposterous on all counts!

Mata and luiz will not go anywhere this summer. Rooney may still end up at chelsea though.

Azza · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:11

Latest rumour is that Moyes is waiting for Everton to offer £10m + Naismith for Rooney.

Bucket · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:15

Matt Hughes ‏@MattHughesTimes
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Chelsea strongly deny offering any player to United. They made a cash bid which was rejected. They're furious with Utd. Statement imminent.

Matt Hughes ‏@MattHughesTimes
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To clarify #cfc angry that two of their players have been thrown into the mix, which they blame on Utd. Insist Mata &. Luiz will both stay.

Matt Hughes ‏@MattHughesTimes
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Expect Mourinho to be very outspoken later and likely to criticise United. This will run and run. #rooney

Press seem to be talking like we leaked it all and are stirring the pot ourselves, not surprised.

Although I don't mind too much if we're doing things to wind them up slightly, after all, I am getting bored of the consistent pursuit by Jose & his players publicly gushing for Wayne.

EDIT: The soap opera going on between the journos is quite funny, some believing it's Chelsea playing games back etc and it's all one big push the blame. Quite amusing.

This window is a bit mental isn't it really.

Tom84 · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:19

Oh well hopefully Chelsea are so angry they wont bother trying to deal with us again

The Running Man · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:23

Just Juan Mata time. Lets sell Rooney first then find out if any good players out there want to move to UTD.

fez · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:35

Why on earth would United leak false information about a transfer which just happens to fit with the papers rhetoric about Mata and Luiz being out of favour with Mourinho earlier in the window. To be honest, it really wouldn't take much to make Rooney stick in a transfer request and I think that might be what Chelsea are trying to bait out of Rooney.

Bucket · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:37

I think, if anything, United are trying to get the transfer request out of Rooney if anything. They will want to paint him as the bad guy as much as possible, and the longer he stays 'officially' quiet the longer it'll drag on.

Icm76 · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:38

it fits - forcing Chelsea to go public can help raise the price as other clubs now know Chelsea bid. Rooney is further frustrated as the club show that they hold the power by refusing the bid publicly, and Chelsea (club and fans) are infuriated that their key players have been made out to be disposable. From Utds point of view: win, win, win

Gooner14 · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:41

Newbie007 said:
RE Higuain:

Napoli are rumoured to be looking at Higuain as a replacement for Cavani, along with the guy Spurs have been after for a few seasons, Damiao. RM want to use him in any Suarez deal (can't see him wanting to drop out the CL though, stranger things have happened mind you).

Apparently the Brazilian window closes this weekend though so any deals involving Brazilian players need to be finalised by the weekend (no idea how true the Brazilian window thing is!).

Summary from various media reports - not twitter

That story is actually entirely from Twitter

The Napoli chairman did a Q&A session on twitter, and someone asked him if they would be interested in either player, and he confirmed they would be.

Newbie007 · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:46

Gooner14 said:
That story is actually entirely from Twitter The Napoli chairman did a Q&A session on twitter, and someone asked him if they would be interested in either player, and he confirmed they would be.

Bah, journo's should quote their damn sources when doing articles!! At least it isn't made up twitter **** **** for a change.

Robbo · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:46

So I guess we want £15/20m + Mata for Rooney if we've turned it down. I'd probably have taken the £10m to make sure we get the deal done before Chelsea see sense.

Really hope it comes off though, Mata is an incredible player and would be far more effective than the modern day Wayne Rooney.

It seems fairly legit too.

Not interested in Luiz. Perhaps both though?

AGD · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:49

Robbo said:
So I guess we want £15/20m + Mata for Rooney if we've turned it down. I'd probably have taken the £10m to make sure we get the deal done before Chelsea see sense.

Really hope it comes off though, Mata is an incredible player and would be far more effective than the modern day Wayne Rooney.

It seems fairly legit too.

Not interested in Luiz. Perhaps both though?

Lol. I assume you are joking. You do realise that chelsea are not selling/swapping mata right?

Bucket · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:49

Robbo said:
So I guess we want £15/20m + Mata for Rooney if we've turned it down. I'd probably have taken the £10m to make sure we get the deal done before Chelsea see sense.

Really hope it comes off though, Mata is an incredible player and would be far more effective than the modern day Wayne Rooney.

It seems fairly legit too.

Not interested in Luiz. Perhaps both though?

I'm not sure anything seems legit, bar that Chelsea are interested and want Wayne Rooney and that we've kept our 'not for sale' stance

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The rest of it could be made up by us, not made up by us but Chelsea want to publicly deny it and all other manner of things, who knows what's real/not real.

J-FRO · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:51

I'm going to guess (probably wrongly) that United actually offered Rooney plus £10m for Mata....

Andybtsn · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:52

Straight swap Torres and Rooney should do it.

Newbie007 · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:55

Robbo · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:56

Bucket said:
I'm not sure anything seems legit, bar that Chelsea are interested and want Wayne Rooney and that we've kept our 'not for sale' stance .

The rest of it could be made up by us, not made up by us but Chelsea want to publicly deny it and all other manner of things, who knows what's real/not real.

Chelsea have just confirmed they bid but claim they didn't offer a player. Wonder how much we'll accept.

In fairness they would never admit to offering a player who isn't on the way out unless they're very confident they can get the deal done.

Icm76 · 17 Jul 2013 at 13:58

SSN: Chelsea confirm bid for Rooney, deny any players offered in exchange

Here is the Chelsea statement as printed in the SSN article:

Chelsea Football Club can confirm that yesterday it made a written offer to Manchester United for the transfer of Wayne Rooney. "Although the terms of the offer are confidential, for avoidance of doubt and contrary to what is currently being briefed to the press in Sydney, the proposed purchase price does not include the transfer or loan of any players from Chelsea to Manchester United.

Shamikebab · 17 Jul 2013 at 14:05

Andybtsn said:
Straight swap Torres and Rooney should do it.

I'd swap Welbeck for Torres

div0 · 17 Jul 2013 at 14:06

Andybtsn said:
Straight swap Torres and Rooney should do it.

No doubt the Chelsea fans would be happier, but I actually think Torres could rediscover his form at somewhere like Man U.

I just don't see a swap deal of any kind being the outcome of a Rooney transfer.