Guts of PC needed

teppic · 11 Aug 2013 at 22:52

Spudsasin said:
Yeah sorry I should have made myself clear, I wasn't considering an APU nor was I comparing a GPU with the APU I was merely curious but thank you for you help. One more question though, what is this 7870 LE I've been hearing about what separates it from a normal 7870?

Take a 7950 GPU, cut it back slightly, add on the memory configuration of a 7870, and you've got a 7870 LE. It performs out of the box around the same as a non-boost 7950, so it's an extremely good buy at £155.

Spudsasin · 11 Aug 2013 at 22:54

So is it better than a normal 7870?

Martini1991 · 11 Aug 2013 at 22:56

Yeah it's better than a normal 7870.
Although they're generally hotter and consume more power.

teppic · 11 Aug 2013 at 23:00

You'd get a good 10-20% or so extra performance from the LE over the 'real' 7870. If you can afford more, you have the benefit of the better memory specs in a 7950, and overall better performance, as well as more options (the LE isn't available from MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, etc).

Spudsasin · 11 Aug 2013 at 23:06

Cause I was considering an XFX 7870 DD but what would you suggest instead?

teppic · 11 Aug 2013 at 23:10

It's hard to recommend a 7850 or 7870 at the moment with the 7870 LE at £155. If you were looking to spend £200 I'd say get the 7950 on offer (I've got nothing against nvidia, I just don't think they can offer anything better than AMD at comparable prices).

Spudsasin · 12 Aug 2013 at 07:40

Ok well is it worth say instead of an i5 I went for and i3 or an Fx 6300 I'd have an extra £70 ish to spend on My GPU and got the 7950 or anything else I could get for £220? Or am I stupid to sack the 3570K? Is it true that the 3570K is on the i7 level?

UKflames · 12 Aug 2013 at 07:45

I feel violated, my thread got hacked off topic

(Only joking)

Thanks for the suggestions Teppic, I will take alook at what you suggested.

teppic · 12 Aug 2013 at 07:49

UKflames said:
I feel violated, my thread got hacked off topic (Only joking)

Thanks for the suggestions Teppic, I will take alook at what you suggested.

Sorry, blame spudsasin

I'd almost forgotten the original question...

Doomedspeed · 12 Aug 2013 at 07:50

Spudsasin said:
Ok well is it worth say instead of an i5 I went for and i3 or an Fx 6300 I'd have an extra £70 ish to spend on My GPU and got the 7950 or anything else I could get for £220? Or am I stupid to sack the 3570K? Is it true that the 3570K is on the i7 level?

The 3570k down to the 6300 is a noticable downgrade.

The 3570k will perform as well as the 3770k in games, as games don't fully ultise hyperthreading yet..

to be honest the 7870 LE with a slight overclock will be very very close to 7950 levels. Saving £60-£70.

Potty27 · 12 Aug 2013 at 07:57

From the sounds of your budget this would be about the best "bang for buck" in my opinion:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £185.99
1 x VTX3D HD 7870 Black Boost Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £155.99
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI38G160C9K) £49.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £45.95
Total : £437.92 (includes shipping : FREE).

Potty27 · 12 Aug 2013 at 07:59

Spudsasin said:
Is it true that the 3570K is on the i7 level?

No, but as most games wont make use of the i7's hyperthreading, they will generally be on par for those that don't.

Edit - What doom said

teppic · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:04

Potty27 said:
From the sounds of your budget this would be about the best "bang for buck" in my opinion:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £185.99
1 x VTX3D HD 7870 Black Boost Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £155.99
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI38G160C9K) £49.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £45.95
Total : £437.92 (includes shipping : FREE).

This is nothing like what the OP wants - bit early to be on the gin?

Potty27 · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:09

This one is for the OP

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor **FREE SIMCITY PC GAME** (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £68.99
1 x **B Grade** Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD120BW) £60.00
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (TXD38G2400HC10QDC01) £59.99
1 x OCZ CoreXtreme 500w '80 Plus' Power Supply £34.99
1 x Thermalright True Spirit 120 REV A (BW) Performance CPU Cooler £24.98
Total : £348.90 (includes shipping : FREE).

Doomedspeed · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:31

Not keen on the OCZ PSU though, would rather spend an extra few £ and get:

This: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-124-TT&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=2462

Or this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-172-AN&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=2462

teppic · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:34

I'd also drop to the A8-5600K and the 1600MHz RAM, since there will be no gaming. Saves a good £40 or so.

Martini1991 · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:34

Yeah those Core ones aren't meant to be very good.

Potty27 · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:35

The reviews for it are good though and it would have a bit more power in case the OP adds a dedicated graphics card etc.

Martini1991 · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:37

The reviews for those 1000W PSU's for 20 quid are also good on customer reviews

Potty27 · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:40

http://it-review.net/article/hardware/psu/OCZ_CoreXstream_500W_review&3

I was looking into getting one at one point, from what I saw most of the negative things said about them are by those who have never used one.