Boycott Sochi 2014 because of LGBT offences

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Its funny how this has been completely blown off proportion, the law actually passed just stops propaganda of homosexuals, while its not great it has happend... They are not exactly sending gays off to gulags and to gas cameras are they...

But this has provoked such massive response, all this while we have our besties of friends in Saudi Arabia, stoning people to death, killing rape victims and forbidding women to drive cars.... But its all cool.
 

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Isn't tolerance just an opinion though?

Just as some people abhor human cruelty, there are others that are happy to eat their caged chicken eggs. Just as people mostly dislike the ill treatments of homosexuals there are people that would be happy to hang them all.

Morals are a constantly evolving thing in our modern secular world, however a lot of the world isn't secular and so its morals are tied to centuries old religion.

There's no right or wrong stance when it comes to morals, only opinions. If people think gays should be persecuted then they're kind of entitled to persecute.

Personally I'm quite left-wing on social points, but a libertarian on economic points. I would say the persecution of gays is not a good thing, but equally I respect Russia enough to let them either take over the world in the future or conform to western ideals in the future (as if the all the people in the west are on the same page, heh). In the meantime the Olympics is an economic venture which should view the world as its playground and take a completely blind eye to morals and leave that to the politicians.

Unfortunately though left-wingers are normally completely unable to see the other viewpoint, as are most right-wingers. It's an argument that can only be won via a war of sorts. It's also normally only right-wingers that welcome war. Socialists have a tough path ahead of them :p
 
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Evil, evil people :mad:, I bet they fund GM food research and speed in school zones as well :mad::mad::mad:

I'm certain Gary Glitter often went paeding in school zones.

Tbh I don't mind what Gary's do in the comfort of their own homes but it makes me sick to my hind teeth the way they're rammed down our throats on tv:mad:
 
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Isn't tolerance just an opinion though?

There's no right or wrong stance when it comes to morals, only opinions. If people think gays should be persecuted then they're kind of entitled to persecute.

Do you want another go at this? I mean, re-read what you've written and perhaps have another think?
 
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I'm certain Gary Glitter often went paeding in school zones.

Tbh I don't mind what Gary's do in the comfort of their own homes but it makes me sick to my hind teeth the way they're rammed down our throats on tv:mad:

How are you defining 'rammed down our throats' (lol)? Because outside of news pieces covering gay marriage legislation I can't really say I've noticed an increase in coverage.

Unless you're counting a gay person being on TV as having it rammed down your throat.
 
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How are you defining 'rammed down our throats' (lol)? Because outside of news pieces covering gay marriage legislation I can't really say I've noticed an increase in coverage.

Unless you're counting a gay person being on TV as having it rammed down your throat.

I was on about Garys not gays as was the poster I quoted, I don't care how pc you are surely even you think garying is a step too far, I 100% blame the parents.
 
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I can't really see many people actually boycotting the games, however strongly they feel. For an entire nation to do so, it would be very much a political move, as it would need to come from the Government.

With individual athletes, the problem is that by the very nature of being an elite athlete, most are determined to win. The Olympics are the pinnacle of most sports, so to give up your place pretty much means giving your chance away to somebody else and you boycotting achievs very little.

I actually think the bigger issue at these Olympics, aside from the treatment of LGBT and corruption is the danger from extremists. Given some of the violence and bombings that has happened in the run up, I can't see it being completely incident free. Its only afterwards that the IOC are going to come under scrutiny for why it was awarded to Sochi.
 
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What name do you prefer your food to have?

Tough one, it's a toss up between cod and raw cauliflower but even as I type this black pudding comes to mind, as I say tough one, tbh I can't come close to deciding one food name over another.
 
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What if your cod was called Gary by his coddy mates?

The difference in pronunciation would just about get it by if it looked good and if it looked bad I'd have a good reason to reject it on the name issue alone, win win for me however you look at it.
 
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Your argument form a Western standpoint. Other cultures see homosexuality as immoral. Their country, their choice of living.

Reading through these older posts and have to say, you have the incorrect viewpoint if you approach the matter that it is a Western Vs Rest-of-the-World case. That is far too simplistic. Homosexuality wasn't spawned from the Western world, it is common throughout the entire world. It's just that the Western world has taken the main role in realising that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Now if only other places would drag their asses out of the medieval ages.
 
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Well, that's not for you to decide.

Democratic; perhaps. Right; matter of opinion.

For the record, I don't agree with it, but I think the world should be wary of telling an entire country the size of Russia that they're wrong in their democratic decisions.


Tool, "right" isn't a matter of opinion. You don't make something "right" simply by having uneducated consensus.

Oppression of innocent groups of people is always wrong, no matter where the place is or how the populous of the place feels towards the people.

I'm not saying that something miraculous can be done about it, that's up to people with more power than us who frankly don't care enough. In fact, not enough people care about the problem, which is why it persists. Complacency leading to inaction etc etc These problems have plagued our society for generations.
 
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Tool, "right" isn't a matter of opinion. You don't make something "right" simply by having uneducated consensus.

Oppression of innocent groups of people is always wrong, no matter where the place is or how the populous of the place feels towards the people.

I'm not saying that something miraculous can be done about it, that's up to people with more power than us who frankly don't care enough. In fact, not enough people care about the problem, which is why it persists. Complacency leading to inaction etc etc These problems have plagued our society for generations.

But isnt pinnacle of Democracy is when government does what the population wants?

If population wants to opress then democratic government has no right to stop this, if it does... Dictatorship.
 
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