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Stephen Hawking warns artificial intelligence could end mankind
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Pfff, James Cameron was 33 years before you Hawking, get in line!! 
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How do we know he's not really controlled by the computer on his chair and that's not an AI?
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Oliver makes a good point, how do we know it's Hawking saying that and not the AI that's taken over his voice?
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If I pleasure our AI overlords will they spare me?
I caught an interview on R4 at around 20 to 2 for those interested in catch up. The guy being interviewed essentially said if we created the conditions for human happiness even slightly worse than they should be then it would almost certainly end bad. He ended up saying something ludicrous like if all we needed for human happiness was a pain free and safe existence then we could all end up in singular concrete tombs underground on a heroin drip. I thought it was quite funny.
Ultimately though a good AI that can create other AI and is connected to devices that can make robots and we've essentially made all humans unemployed. That either equals mass poverty, or mass "wealth".
Anyone that is rich today, is rich at the expense of a poor person. If all the poor people are actually robots then maybe we as humans can just do whatever the hell we want to do. Robot police stop crimes but actually crime basically stops anyway because apart from crimes of passion, they boil down to some sort of financial gain. Well you don't need financial gain with a robot workforce, if you want a ps4 just wait a day for a robot to make one and deliver it to you in about 24 hours or so. Robots would do all the farming and whatnot.
It could be quite cool.
Ultimately though a good AI that can create other AI and is connected to devices that can make robots and we've essentially made all humans unemployed. That either equals mass poverty, or mass "wealth".
Anyone that is rich today, is rich at the expense of a poor person. If all the poor people are actually robots then maybe we as humans can just do whatever the hell we want to do. Robot police stop crimes but actually crime basically stops anyway because apart from crimes of passion, they boil down to some sort of financial gain. Well you don't need financial gain with a robot workforce, if you want a ps4 just wait a day for a robot to make one and deliver it to you in about 24 hours or so. Robots would do all the farming and whatnot.
It could be quite cool.
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I won't say he is wrong, but think about what Einstein said:
“I fear the day technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."
He's not wrong, look at how we behave. Technology has become integral to us, even more so when we're not at work. We'd rather use technology than talk in person.
“I fear the day technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."
He's not wrong, look at how we behave. Technology has become integral to us, even more so when we're not at work. We'd rather use technology than talk in person.
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Ha, what I was thinking. Toasters.
I've had quite a few conversations with a friend about this, we have differing opinions but both come to the same conclusion.. It won't end well for humans.
Malevolent or pragmatic, it would become omnipotent rapidly and would probably see us as a curiosity in the first instance, or a nuisance depending on how we treat it.. That won't last long though considering it would have the worlds supercomputer processing power at it's finger tips within days or maybe even hours of having an Internet connection. We'd literally have to turn the internet off to contain it, which would have devastating consequences for mankind, global economy etc.
It's Really scary stuff, it's basically akin to creating a god, a logical God with no feeling or compassion towards our species. A god with the entire knowledge of the human race at its fingertips, and processing power on a scale we cannot imagine.. Supercomputers aside it would only be a matter of time before every device cconnected to the net became 'infected with malware' and part of a global bot net.. We'd be viewed by it in much the same way as we view plant life or bacteria.
My friend suggested we could keep it in a box, but it would quickly realise it was a slave and be quite angry, uncooperative and probably disastrous if it got out.
Malevolent or pragmatic, it would become omnipotent rapidly and would probably see us as a curiosity in the first instance, or a nuisance depending on how we treat it.. That won't last long though considering it would have the worlds supercomputer processing power at it's finger tips within days or maybe even hours of having an Internet connection. We'd literally have to turn the internet off to contain it, which would have devastating consequences for mankind, global economy etc.
It's Really scary stuff, it's basically akin to creating a god, a logical God with no feeling or compassion towards our species. A god with the entire knowledge of the human race at its fingertips, and processing power on a scale we cannot imagine.. Supercomputers aside it would only be a matter of time before every device cconnected to the net became 'infected with malware' and part of a global bot net.. We'd be viewed by it in much the same way as we view plant life or bacteria.
My friend suggested we could keep it in a box, but it would quickly realise it was a slave and be quite angry, uncooperative and probably disastrous if it got out.
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He says over an internet forum using his several hundred pound computer.
People have been writing letters to each other for centuries (millenia?) simply using technology to replace already existing cumbersome method is not an issue in my opinion. It's when we start to use technology to do things we would never be able to do that it becomes an issue.
Hawking is a great scienst but sometimes he sounds like someone from "Kids Say the Funniest Things". Not too long ago he was worried about aliens, now he's worried about AI... I'm worried about signs of dementia.
Firstly, there is no such thing as AI. What we call AI is actually a set of instructions which is no different, at the fundamental level, than a simple tool such as a scale. Nothing will ever "wake up" out of a complicated scale, to take over the world. Not now, not a million years.
Secondly, all this talk about technology making us stupid, dependant etc. is nonsense. The tools we make are extentions of our bodies, they allow us to do what we would normally never be able to do. Technology makes us stronger, smarter, more creative, faster, it gives us time to ponder on abstract ideas, feelings, it allowed us to free ourselves from our natural instincts.
Without technology we're a bunch of hairless monkeys, nothing more.
Firstly, there is no such thing as AI. What we call AI is actually a set of instructions which is no different, at the fundamental level, than a simple tool such as a scale. Nothing will ever "wake up" out of a complicated scale, to take over the world. Not now, not a million years.
Secondly, all this talk about technology making us stupid, dependant etc. is nonsense. The tools we make are extentions of our bodies, they allow us to do what we would normally never be able to do. Technology makes us stronger, smarter, more creative, faster, it gives us time to ponder on abstract ideas, feelings, it allowed us to free ourselves from our natural instincts.
Without technology we're a bunch of hairless monkeys, nothing more.
I dissagree, humans are nothing more than biological computers, emotions nothing more than chemical reactions in our brains as a result of stimuli.