Happy St George's Day!

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Obligatory George Carlin quote....

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RACIST ENGLISH *******

Well, that's what everyone says when someone flies the ST Georges Cross, and I am ashamed at people

Really is a shame, and I truly hope you fly the flag HIGH as it's the ENGLISH flag, not the UK flag, so have EVERY right.. ANd for the lefty ******s, NO IT'S NOT RACIST

Erm buddy, no one is saying that. As far as I can see you're the first one to bring this up in this thread with your slightly cringeworthy rant.

It's ok, no one is offended by your hot cross buns.
 
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RACIST ENGLISH *******

Well, that's what everyone says when someone flies the ST Georges Cross, and I am ashamed at people

Really is a shame, and I truly hope you fly the flag HIGH as it's the ENGLISH flag, not the UK flag, so have EVERY right.. ANd for the lefty ******s, NO IT'S NOT RACIST

Ok son put down the Prozac.
 
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Well, that's what everyone says when someone flies the ST Georges Cross, and I am ashamed at people

Well, to be fair, it was one of the banners used during the crusades (ironically by the French not the English), and so it does have some racist/offensive connotations, it is tarnished by it's prior use, similar to the swastika.

It's a shame really it got chosen as the flag of England and Wales, they should have made a new flag but I guess nobody really considered the ramifications of what the flag would represent in the 21st century.



Really is a shame, and I truly hope you fly the flag HIGH as it's the ENGLISH flag

Actually it's the English, Georgian, Genoan and Ligurian flag (and ay also be an official flag of Wales, not sure if the Dragon one replaced it entirely). Another reason England should have picked a different flag lol.
 
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And Britain First are having a field day on Facebook not realising he's a foreigner and never came here.

Why does that matter? St Andrew never visited Scotland either. Patron saints were not selected on the basis of nationality, but religious conviction.

Also, nationalism does not mean you can celebrate the achievements of other nations.
 
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I always thought he was from Palestine!

He was from Syria Palaestina, a Roman province in what is today Israel, he was born in Lod 9 miles from the Israeli capital.

The confusion come from the fact that Syria Palaestina encompassed modern day Turkey, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria and Israel.
 
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He was from Syria Palaestina, a Roman province in what is today Israel, he was born in Lod 9 miles from the Israeli capital.

The confusion come from the fact that Syria Palaestina encompassed modern day Turkey, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria and Israel.

To be clear, he was almost certainly Greek. His father was from Anatolia (which was Greek in this period) and his mother was from Lod, which was essentially also a Greek city in this period.
 
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To be clear, he was almost certainly Greek.

Like I said above, he was born in Lod in the Roman province of Syria Palaestina, a Roman province which encompassed many modern countries but his birthplace was in modern day Israel (<10 miles for Tel Aviv).

At no time during his life or immediately before/after was Lod Greek.
 
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Like I said above, he was born in Lod in the Roman province of Syria Palaestina, a Roman province which encompassed many modern countries but his birthplace was in modern day Israel (<10 miles for Tel Aviv).

At no time during his life or immediately before/after was Lod Greek.

In 200 AD, emperor Septimius Severus elevated the town to the status of a city, calling it Colonia Lucia Septimia Severa Diospolis.[23] The name Diospolis ("City of Zeus") may have been bestowed earlier, possibly by Hadrian.[24] At that point, most of its inhabitants were Christian. The earliest known bishop is Aëtius, a friend of Arius.[15] In December 415, the Council of Diospolis was held here to try Pelagius; he was acquitted. In the sixth century the city was renamed Georgiopolis[25] after St. George, a soldier in the guard of the emperor Diocletian, who was born there between 256 and 285 AD.[26] The Church of St. George is named for him.[11]

Additionally, both his mother and father had Greek names.

St George was Greek. His parents were Greek. Lod was essentially an ethnically Greek city.
 
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St George was Greek. His parents were Greek. Lod was essentially an ethnically Greek city.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but nothing you quoted there disproves what I said. Lod was a Roman city in a Roman province when he was born there. He joined the Roman army and was a guard to the emperor.

You can't claim he was Greek just because his daddy was, that's just silly.
 
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I spent the morning procrastinating putting together a list of significant English people to celebrate St George's Day, then I realised - there are too many to list. Here is as far as I got:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick 5th Century, Briton who took Christianity to Ireland, got rid of all the snakes in Ireland too (well, have you ever seen a snake in Ireland?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Canterbury 7th Century, First Archbishop of Canterbury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bede 7th-8th Century, recorder of early English history, wrote “The Ecclesiastical History of the English People”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great 9th Century, fought to unite the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms into one Kingdom called England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Conqueror 11th Century, last person to have successfully invaded England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_II_of_England 12th Century, made England great, invented the civil service
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket 12th Century, Archbishop of Canterbury, murdered on possibly misunderstood orders of Henry II, defined the relationship between the Crown and the Church for the remainder of the middle-ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John,_King_of_England 12-13th Century, forced to sign the Magna Carta, the Great Charter of Liberties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Tyler 14th Century, leader of Peasant’s revolt against Poll Tax, murdered during negotiations with royalist forces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VII_of_England, 15th Century, won the War of the Roses, ended the Plantagenet dynasty and began the Tudor dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England 15th-16th Century, had 6 wives but more importantly established the Church of England, free of interference from Rome. Lots of very important historical figures tied up with Henry’s legacy – Thomas Cromwell, Thomas Cranmer to name but two.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I_of_England 16th-17th Century, probably England’s greatest monarch, defeated Spanish Armada, put an end to religious purges propagated by her sister Bloody Mary, Shakespeare, Sir Francis Drake, Nursie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell 17th Century, Lord Protector of the Faith, New Model Army, English Civil War, execution of Charles I, “warts and all”, ensured Parliament as the highest authority in the land – not the monarch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keats 18th-19th Century, Poet, Romantic, TB, Hyperion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson,_1st_Viscount_Nelson 18th-19th Century, Naval overlord, Battle of the Nile, Trafalgar, “Kiss me Hardy”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolpuddle_Martyrs 19th Century, a group of Labourers sentenced to Australia (/shudder) for forming a trade union like organisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey 20th Century, English poet and lyricist, probably would regard the above as his contemporaries.
 
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