What have you done to your car today?

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Last few days of motoring for me have been..interesting, narrowly avoided being included in a 7 car pileup on a dual carriage way due to two young lads racing. Funnily enough I was on my way back from a First Aid course provided by my employer. It's got me thinking I want a dash cam, I know people here are on the fence about them but if I had one that day my testimony or whatever would be so much more concrete towards the little ***** that caused the accident, helping a 7 year old girl with a badly broken arm really hit home as my lad was in the car with me too. It scares me to think what could have been... however, does anyone have experience with the eBay jobbies? seems to be a huge array around the 30-40quid mark, would like some info from anyone experienced in using/installing if possible!

My wife bought me a Muvi K2 as a camera to use on holiday in Thailand when we go diving.
I stuck that to my windscreen and have used it as a dash cam in the mean time.
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I too checked up, not quite what springs to mind when most people think "Cossie".
Tbf when i think cossie i think 190e 16v and those things are only about 180-200hp. For that era that power was ok and they are also very light weight so are great fun to drive.
 
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Tbf when i think cossie i think 190e 16v and those things are only about 180-200hp. For that era that power was ok and they are also very light weight so are great fun to drive.

But they were years before amigafan's Scorpio. And much lighter. An E30 M3 was only 200bhp as well but it was on sale in 1990 and didn't weigh as much.

For a 1999 car 200bhp and 0-60 in 9 seconds is firmly in the bracket of 'nothing special' so constantly referring to it as 'The Cosworth' as if it's 'A Cosworth' like an Escort or Sierra is a bit comedy really.

An Escort Cosworth or a Sierra Cosworth are genuinely special cars referred to affectionately as 'A Cosworth'.
 
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Went in to get the de-res fitted (centre silencer removal). What a brilliant budget mod. Performance exhaust sound for pennies. Very impressed.

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[TW]Fox;27974379 said:
But they were years before amigafan's Scorpio. And much lighter. An E30 M3 was only 200bhp as well but it was on sale in 1990 and didn't weigh as much.

For a 1999 car 200bhp and 0-60 in 9 seconds is firmly in the bracket of 'nothing special' so constantly referring to it as 'The Cosworth' as if it's 'A Cosworth' like an Escort or Sierra is a bit comedy really.

An Escort Cosworth or a Sierra Cosworth are genuinely special cars referred to affectionately as 'A Cosworth'.

It (the 2.9i 24V Scorpio) was badged as the Scorpio 24V, never cosworth, the only people who brand them thus are the owners.

It was a vast improvement over the 12V 2.9i but certainly nothing to brag about compared with a BMW 2.5i of the same era.

Still, both the 12 & 24 2.9V6 cars drove a lot nicer than the figures imply, back to back, the 24V especially.
 
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The K11 1.0 was a superb engine in terms or reliability. My Grandad is still driving about in his and it's done over 180k now and it's getting on for 15 years old.

A mate rolled one onto its side when we where 17. some passers by helped him tip it back onto its wheels and he stuck a new wing mirror on touched up some paint with a tin of hammerite and drove it round for probably another year hassle free.
 

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Wow, I thought the standard 2.9 was 195bhp. I had no idea a 98 Scorpio V6 could have such little power.

The 12v V6 was replaced in 1996 with the 2.3l 16v. In 1998 there were only three engines available in the Scorpio - 2.3l 16v, 2.5l TD and the 2.9l V6 Cosworth.

For a 1999 car 200bhp and 0-60 in 9 seconds is firmly in the bracket of 'nothing special'

Scorpios ran from 94 to 98, there are no 99 cars. Book figure is 8.5 seconds but it's widely accepted that this is an underated figure (Ford were nervous about selling "performance Ford's/Cosworths" - the Scorpio launched right at the height of the joy riding craze - another reason the exterior Cosworth badging was a cost option and not default) with the actual time a shade under 8s. Remember, all the Scorpio Cosworths are slushbox autos as well (manual was never an option), which hampers the initial acceleration (30mph-50mph, 50mph-70mph etc times are competetive with other cars in the same class) and they weigh 1900kg!

Then there is all the non-engine stuff that is upgraded on a Scorpio Cosworth - bigger brakes, stiffer springs, thicker anti-roll bar, traction control, Recaro interior (option), upgraded gearbox - you know - the same things that were changed on Sierra Cosworths and Escort Cosworths versus non Cosworth models in the range. The only thing the Scorpio Cosworth didn't get versus the Sieera/Escort Cosworths was different bodywork - but frankly - can you blame them - who would want to risk making it look worse!

so constantly referring to it as 'The Cosworth' as if it's 'A Cosworth' like an Escort or Sierra is a bit comedy really.

Well it is a Cosworth so I'm not sure what the issue is - I've never preteneded it isn't a Scorpio ???? I accept, the car was never in the same class as the Escort or Sierra Cosworths - but it was never meant to be - it was designed as a performance exec with a very high equipment level - like the Vauxhall Omega 3.0l 24v - which it did quite well at - discounting the "aquired taste" styling ofc!

It (the 2.9i 24V Scorpio) was badged as the Scorpio 24V, never cosworth, the only people who brand them thus are the owners.

Incorrect - the boot badge was a factory option. My file has a recpt for the car which includes the badge on the options list (£40!). The V5 even says Ford Scorpio Ultima 24v Cosworth. Plus Cosworth is emblazoned across the engine:-

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Mine pushes 250bhp (cams, chip and induction filter).


It was a vast improvement over the 12V 2.9i but certainly nothing to brag about compared with a BMW 2.5i of the same era.

One of these?

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/bmw/5-series/saloon-1996/19304/

Specs look the same - in fact, it has less power and is a bit slower than the Scorpio.

If you look at the 5 Series that was out when the Scorpio launched in '94 the comparison favours the Scorpio even more.


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Anyway - back on topic - got two new keys cut and programmed by an auto locksmith that came out to me - so no drama really but £95 lighter for it!

Oh, and replaced the water pump on the Westfield (am I allowed to call it a Westfield? :D). Car runs lovely and quiet now - just got to go through the utter pain of getting all the airlocks out now. Wideband is working a treat as well so gonna finetune the map when the sun comes back out.
 
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Then there is all the non-engine stuff that is upgraded on a Scorpio Cosworth - bigger brakes, stiffer springs, thicker anti-roll bar, traction control, Recaro interior (option), upgraded gearbox - you know - the same things that were changed on Sierra Cosworths and Escort Cosworths versus non Cosworth models in the range. The only thing the Scorpio Cosworth didn't get versus the Sieera/Escort Cosworths was different bodywork - but frankly - can you blame them - who would want to risk making it look worse!

I think your missing FOX's point. When someone says Cosworth you automatically think of the Group A homologation specials. They were epic and built for a purpose. The Scorpio just isn't in the same group even though it is a Cosworth car.

Yes your Scorpio is a Cosworth but not in the same vein as what people perceive the other cars when someone mentions "cossie". I would also eat my hat if you gained nigh on 50 bhp from some cams, an air filter and some piggy back chip.

Just to clarify I do actually like the Scorpio Cosworth.
 
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I think your missing FOX's point. When someone says Cosworth you automatically think of the Group A homologation specials. They were epic and built for a purpose. The Scorpio just isn't in the same group even though it is a Cosworth car.

I do get Fox's point , I've said as much in my post. You need to bear in mind the Escort and Sierra were also RS models (and we know what RS stands for don't we) where as mine is just a plain Cosworth model. Fox's point would hold more weight if I'd have referred to mine as an RS Cosworth - but I never have. You can think of Cosworth as being another trim level and the RS as the performance designation.

Yes your Scorpio is a Cosworth but not in the same vein as what people perceive the other cars when someone mentions "cossie".

I know - see my RS comment above. Just because others have it wrong doesn't mean my car isn't (or shouldn't be referred to as) a Cosworth.

I would also eat my hat if you gained nigh on 50 bhp from some cams, an air filter and some piggy back chip.

40bhp increase - they are 157kw (210bhp) standard. 25bhp from cams, 10bhp from chip, 5bhp from filter - confirmed on a before and after RR session. Remember, the 2.9l V6 24v Cosworth engine is actually a de-tuned 300bhp engine (Ford were worried about thier A4LDe gearbox handling more power - I've always said they should have put a T5 manual in it) - people out there are getting the full 300bhp with the above mods plus ITB's replacing the restrictive inlet.

Just to clarify I do actually like the Scorpio Cosworth.

So do I :)
 
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