Man of Honour
The problem with the memory/bus on the 980s is they beat the 290Xs @1080p yet lose out to the AMD cards @2160p.
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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)
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The problem with the memory/bus on the 980s is they beat the 290Xs @1080p yet lose out to the AMD cards @2160p.
Associate
That must have been frustrating.
Sounds expensive. I can't see them being cheap.
Soldato
I just think if AMD has been pushing things like VR and HD gaming with these cards,and has competing 8GB cards like the R9 390X 8GB in their own range,they probably working on ways around the 4GB limitation. I would expect if the card is 4GB,they have known for quite a while!
For 2160p in multi GPU setups the 4gb of memory on the cards will be a big let down as 4gb is 4gb, this is the answer DM had so much trouble giving.
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Because he doesn't know. At the moment only a few know for sure and they won't or can't tell. I think you will most likely be proved right but I'm trying to be open minded and slightly optimistic about the new tech/Fury.
I take it you are unable to answer the question then.
I'd give it up mate. The guy has a history of posting hugely vague and hilariously biased walls of text that never have any backing other than his own sense of arrogance. The easiest way to sush him up would be to post some decent third party facts to back up what you say. I find he goes missing once that happens.
Man of Honour
I just think if AMD has been pushing things like VR and HD gaming with these cards,and has competing 8GB cards like the R9 390X 8GB in their own range,they probably working on ways around the 4GB limitation. I would expect if the card is 4GB,they have known for quite a while!
I think the reviews for the 390X may be worth looking at closely.
Most people think the card is just a rebranded 290X (which it probably is) but I think there may be some refinements added to improve things further. A good example is the memory which in the leaks I have seen is Hynix rather than Elpida.
I think there may be a number of small improvements that make the card in total a lot better than the old 290X.
Associate
This makes sense to me. It would look very bad to do a straight rebrand with the same *90x designation, quite deceptive to consumers imo.
Soldato
Well,after reading a few forums,there is some noise it actually is a bit faster and consumes a bit less power than the R9 290X. It could be BS,but it might a new stepping of the core,with some new software optimisations.
Man of Honour
Staying open minded is the best way to go.
Even if I am proved right it does not make the Fury XT a bad card for 2160p as for most things 4gb with 1 or 2 cards at the resolution is fine. It is only when you get to using 3 or 4 cards that 4gb becomes a serious problem.
Soldato
It still has to be priced right.
If it only matches or doesn't quite beat the 980 but still draws a decent bit more power and runs hotter it cant be priced much more than £300.
It's a hobby, like playing Warhammer 40K or MTG, though at £3000 it sounds a fair bit cheaper than Warhammer
Actually he isn't making an assumption, just summarizing what you yourself said.
I will just buy a GTX980ti, it's bad enough they have strung us along for this long, running you company badly is one thing but treating your customers badly is another.
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Associate
Staying open minded is the best way to go.
Even if I am proved right it does not make the Fury XT a bad card for 2160p as for most things 4gb with 1 or 2 cards at the resolution is fine. It is only when you get to using 3 or 4 cards that 4gb becomes a serious problem.
The conspiracy side of me thinks there is some subliminal message in some of the leaks, like they are trying to put you off of getting more than one Gpu. There is the fact it has an aio, the 4GB vram and then that game dev on twitter who said he now only needs a single card for 4k. Alomost like they kow 4GB isn't enough for multi-gpu.
Disclaimer:This is meant in humour and does not necessarily represent the views of the poster.
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If official Fury X benchmarks, as a minimum, don't come out today I think we will see half the forum banned
Hehe, no bad thing, might actual end up with a few factual posts in here then rather than just the usual circular arguments
Soldato
Today will be the official unveiling of the GPU,and I doubt we will be getting reviews today IMHO.
Associate
Is it a reveal or a release. I personally thought that it was said to be a release and others appear to have the same opinion judging from the comments here and other places.
Soldato
I expect they will show off the card today and a few slides comparing it to the competition. Then at a later date reviews will come out and then it will be actually available to buy.
AFAIK,thats how it has been in the past?!
Associate
Yes i have a feeling were only going to see a few benchmarks that dont really tell us much and were still going to be here tomorrow wondering about the performance and wondering what HBM will bring if it will cope at 4k when usually it would need more, i hope im wrong i hope we do see what it can really do and to see if 4gb will be enough at 4k.
Another thing to comment/speculate on is AMD's almost total silence. The longer it goes on and the more the likes of Roy and other employees tease on twitter, it fills me up with more hope that they are just THAT confident and hope to make fools out of some of the sites and rumours.
Also does anyone think they would bring up a screenshot of an article or website that was complete rubbish and make fun of it during the presentation?
This card has been reportedly ready for months, isn't it at least in the realms of possibility they were holding back working on being geniuses on helping mitigate the 4gb issue in those months?
I've seen some people forget why the power consumption might look the same given them touting the power savings of hbm. They just put it elsewhere into the core for an example.
Also does anyone think they would bring up a screenshot of an article or website that was complete rubbish and make fun of it during the presentation?
This card has been reportedly ready for months, isn't it at least in the realms of possibility they were holding back working on being geniuses on helping mitigate the 4gb issue in those months?
I've seen some people forget why the power consumption might look the same given them touting the power savings of hbm. They just put it elsewhere into the core for an example.
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