Latest immigration figures.

arknor · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:54

Freefaller said:
Immigration is good for the UK.

yea not necessarily good for the people of the UK a lot like 0 hour contracts

just for unskilled workers?

before anyone asks me I'm against unskilled.
bring over as many skilled as you like

we have enough unskilled of our own

Tosno · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:54

dowie said:
thanks to the Tories introducing a 2 child cap I won't be

nah baby murdering is a good thing in a civilised society that respects womens rights

Might be 3 now with U turn tory government
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31743031

Only £27.10 a week short from uncle dowrie, only first child cost big money.

The same civilised society that doesn't respect a baby's right to life? Ironically it will be female babies the biggest victims of abortion.

CREATIVE!11 · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:55

amigafan2003 said:
Now I'm intrigued at what dowie said as he's on my ignore list.

Judging by his previous posts, I'm going to guess he's usggested some kind of forced sterilization/genocide?

Pretty much.

Basher · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:56

CREATIVE!11 said:
Uncontrolled immigration.

I mean as a degree educated white male I can't just waltz into Australia even though I'd really like to.

Just like a degree educated white Australian male can't waltz into the UK, even though they may want to?

dowie · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:57

Tosno said:
The same civilised society that doesn't respect a baby's right to life?

tis generally civilised societies that respect the rights of the woman carrying the baby first

dowie · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:57

CREATIVE!11 said:
Pretty much.

so you think abortion is genocide too?

Danthus · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:58

arknor said:
yea not necessarily good for the people of the UK

GDP is up though!

CREATIVE!11 · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:59

Basher said:
Just like a degree educated white Australian male can't waltz into the UK, even though they may want to?

It's easier than getting into Australia that is for sure.

OldCoals said:
GDP is up though!

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS!?

Basher · 27 Aug 2015 at 13:59

CREATIVE!11 said:
It's easier than getting into Australia that is for sure.

But it's not 'uncontrolled' is it?

CREATIVE!11 · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:02

Basher said:
But it's not 'uncontrolled' is it?

So you're saying the current immigration situation is controlled is it? because if you are I'd like to take a toke off of whatever crack pipe you've been hitting, that's some strong stuff.

dowie · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:04

the USA seems to do OK with all that 'uncontrolled' immigration across different states...

I don't believe it erodes workers rights over there either... they also allow 'genocide' aka abortions....

though to be fair they have their own share of xenophobes and anti abortionists just like we have on this very thread...

Basher · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:04

CREATIVE!11 said:
So you're saying the current immigration situation is controlled is it? because if you are I'd like to take a toke off of whatever crack pipe you've been hitting, that's some strong stuff.

Are you talking about within the EU or outside of it?

arknor · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:14

even billionaires will tell you trickle down is dog poop, there's a documentary on it where they have a bunch of rich people who are against it

dowie · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:16

CREATIVE!11 · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:16

arknor said:
even billionaires will tell you trickle down is dog poop, there's a documentary on it where they have a bunch of rich people who are against it

Yeah I know, I'm just giving it as an example how something was packaged up and sold to people as a great idea and which would benefit the country.

At one point that idea was immigration and I'm waiting for it all to blow up.

Stretch · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:19

dowie said:
the USA seems to do OK with all that 'uncontrolled' immigration across different states...

The US doesn't have the internal wealth/opportunity disparity that exists within the EU.

If they invited central and southern american countries into the union, it would cause untold problems.

Basher · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:21

Stretch said:
The US doesn't have the internal wealth/opportunity disparity that exists within the EU.

If they invited central and southern american countries in the union, it would cause untold problems.

Exactly. The issues everyone seems to have with 'immigration' are actually largely down to a small number of less wealthy EU countries. Immigration into the UK from outside the EU is actually fairly difficult.

LordSplodge · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:21

[TW]Fox;28491871 said:
Err yes we do, we have a stricter immigration policy than Australia - there is no skills system for example.

The key difference is that as members of the EU we cannot prevent EU residents from moving here. This isn't an immigration policy issue. If you discount the EU effect our immigration policy is very restrictive and there are often sob stories in the media about people whose wife isn't allowed to move here to be with them etc.

This is why most of the immigration into the UK is from the EU - everyone else finds it very hard to legally immigrate to the UK. A British plumber for example could move to Australia if he has the right skills. An Australian plumber would find it very difficult if not impossible to do the reverse without some other circumstances ie family.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

Best takedown I've seen to date! Brilliant.

balky12 · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:21

dowie said:
the USA seems to do OK with all that 'uncontrolled' immigration across different states...

Now I haven't been to enough American states for a decent comparison.. I am well aware cultures do change from state to state but is it really by that much when you are comparing to immigration across Europe?

I don't feel like that is a pretty fair comparison. However I am looking to be enlightened more than anything.

Say someone from Texas going to New York (two most different states I am aware of (through generalisations)). Is that really that much f a culture shock. Americans are very much 'MERICA!!! trumps all. Extremely patriotic.

I just don't think you can compare that to Estonians, Romanians, Slovenians coming to the UK.

Could be wrong though.

IMO a better comparison would be South America being allowed free movement into North America...

LordSplodge · 27 Aug 2015 at 14:23

amigafan2003 said:
You're wishing something bad happens to the posters kids or grand children?

What a pleasant ~~man~~ boy you are..

My grandson is half Polish. I suspect this would cause them to explode!

amigafan2003 said:
Are you sure? I shop in Polish shops all the time and have never had anything but a very warm welcome.

Ditto.