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OMG, my feet!!

This morning I rode through a ford on my way into the office, and got wet feet, which proceeded to drop to absolute zero on the remaining 30 minutes or so.

What foot protectors/warmers do you wear over your shoes that are reasonably splash proof. I found the water splashed up over the fronts during the crossing, and and then flowed down into the toe area. I have seen a few waterproof covers, but pricing seems to vary dramatically.

Any recommendations?
 
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Well from some rough maths I worked out that around 1,700 miles will be from my commute, 48 miles a week here and there. Then I hope to do at least 60+ on the weekend so should get me over the 4,500 hopefully! :p

My commute is 44 miles a week which is why I guess our figures are pretty close, I do tend to drive 1 day a week or so to pickup packages delivered to work so I usually consider my weekly commuting average miles to be ~36.

I really want to focus on the 40-60 mile distance so I know I can do 90-120km Sportives. I've not put my name forwards and committed to any yet (except the local ones I did last year). I'm pretty sure I'd be the one drafting you on your 'way home'! ;)

As per your thoughts on bikes - I'm looking the CX direction but I would also use that bike as a winter commuter. The Kinesis 4S I'm loving the idea of - buy as a frame and swap my 105 groupset over, then as funds allow upgrade the brakes from rim's to discs, then gradually buy the Ultegra parts required to put on my 'summer' bike (mostly drivechain, would retain the 5800 shifters). Grand plans and all that! ;)

Well, my new frame arrived today. Felt like the box was empty.

It's *that* lightweight, the box and packaging was heavier? ;)

It's a measure of your commitment to long days in the saddle, is what it is, really.

The yearly measurement is best as you can compare against previous years to confirm you've been putting longer rides in - your yearly mileage might not change but if you went from two 30 mile rides a week one year to one 60 mile ride the next your Eddington would.

It has limited use outside of another individual riders metric to compare against themselves and others (without taking factors like types of rides, elevation & time in saddle into consideration). Although we all seem to love doing that at the moment!

One 'bad' thing that Strava/Powermeters/FTP/etc have brought about is that riders are given figures they can easily compare against others! Then again without those numbers we wouldn't be able to analyse our ride data... ;)

I guess a direct drive turbo would be better but we have a mix of 9 and 10 speed bikes on the turbo at the moment, and it's the vibration rather than the noise that seems to transmit through the house.

Type of flooring makes a huge difference. I've ridden outside (paving slabs which I leveled with quantites of sand over compacted soil, but not concreted), on outside decking (suspended wooden frame concreted into the ground) and in my conservatory (solid tiled floor fixed to concrete base over foundation).

The conservatory is very similar for noise produced as the paving slabs, the decking made a huge amount of noise! (I'm guessing due to the empty area below). Can only imagine the noise when done on floorboards with a bigger area below! :eek: Due to the noise in my confined conservatory (and the mess!) I'm tracking down a trainer mat when I find one for a good price - I'm using a piece of underlay at the moment but it gets very slippy when moist! :rolleyes::cool:
 
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OMG, my feet!!

This morning I rode through a ford on my way into the office, and got wet feet, which proceeded to drop to absolute zero on the remaining 30 minutes or so.

What foot protectors/warmers do you wear over your shoes that are reasonably splash proof. I found the water splashed up over the fronts during the crossing, and and then flowed down into the toe area. I have seen a few waterproof covers, but pricing seems to vary dramatically.

Any recommendations?

I've got DHB Neoprene overshoes and BBB Heavyduty, the DHB's are better in heavy rain as the Neoprene is thicker so less tends to get through. There was a good article on RCUK about overshoes and the only ones they recommended for heavy rain were over £60 a pop. The general consensus is that no overshoe is fully 'waterproof'. Neoprene keeps your feet warm even when wet, on a ride like yours you wouldn't have suffered from freezing feet, but they wouldn't be dry.

I have winter boots (Northwave Celsius & Sidi Hydro) which use Gore-tex in the body of the shoe to give waterproofing, read any real reviews of these and you'll see that they are not fully waterproof either. Also read around many forums and you'll find guys who ride with these boots AND overshoes to get as close to waterproof as possible. I've ridden the Celsius in heavy rain commuting and didn't need an overshoe to get a similar amount of protection as shoe+neoprene overshoe in 20 mins. Over a longer period I'd have rain in the tops just the same.

Water getting into the top is always the problem, no matter the footwear or cover. I've thought about hiking gaiters like these but not picked myself up a pair yet. I got my other half some Sealskins waterproof socks last Christmas, she swears by them and considering she cycles in trainers whatever the weather (with no overshoes) they must be pretty good. Maybe one day I'll be feeling flush enough to buy myself some! ;)
 
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The conservatory is very similar for noise produced as the paving slabs, the decking made a huge amount of noise! (I'm guessing due to the empty area below). Can only imagine the noise when done on floorboards with a bigger area below! :eek: Due to the noise in my confined conservatory (and the mess!) I'm tracking down a trainer mat when I find one for a good price - I'm using a piece of underlay at the moment but it gets very slippy when moist! :rolleyes::cool:

I think the best solution might be something heavy, like flooring tiles, sandwiched between a couple of mats or some carpet underlay. A combination of weight and different densities should do the trick to isolate it, because as you say the empty space is just a giant amplifier. The higher frequency fluid noise is blocked quite easily by the walls (I never hear the hoover next door so I expect they only get the vibration from the turbo if anything).
 
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Indeed, I've considered getting some kind of wooden board to put below the matting (maybe sandwiched would be better as you say). I've considered the same for my weights stuff actually as dropping DBs, even on to a triple-thick layer of the cheap Halfords floor mats, is a little alarming.
 
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I've got DHB Neoprene overshoes and BBB Heavyduty, the DHB's are better in heavy rain as the Neoprene is thicker so less tends to get through. There was a good article on RCUK about overshoes and the only ones they recommended for heavy rain were over £60 a pop. The general consensus is that no overshoe is fully 'waterproof'. Neoprene keeps your feet warm even when wet, on a ride like yours you wouldn't have suffered from freezing feet, but they wouldn't be dry.

I have winter boots (Northwave Celsius & Sidi Hydro) which use Gore-tex in the body of the shoe to give waterproofing, read any real reviews of these and you'll see that they are not fully waterproof either. Also read around many forums and you'll find guys who ride with these boots AND overshoes to get as close to waterproof as possible. I've ridden the Celsius in heavy rain commuting and didn't need an overshoe to get a similar amount of protection as shoe+neoprene overshoe in 20 mins. Over a longer period I'd have rain in the tops just the same.

Water getting into the top is always the problem, no matter the footwear or cover. I've thought about hiking gaiters like these but not picked myself up a pair yet. I got my other half some Sealskins waterproof socks last Christmas, she swears by them and considering she cycles in trainers whatever the weather (with no overshoes) they must be pretty good. Maybe one day I'll be feeling flush enough to buy myself some! ;)

Cheers, just hit wiggle for the BBBs for 13odd quid, and also the planetx liquidation sale for a load of cheap warm cycling socks/etc.
 
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New? And from where?

Enquiring minds need to know....

Apologies, you cannot have the deal. I got a reward at work and cashed it in for a £50 voucher to a certain rainforest place so it made it cheap for me.

If it was an open deal I would have told you lot of course! :cool:
 
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Garmin to Strava connection broken today or just me?

Mine worked for me today, but didn't last night. Probably only works 30% of the time generally anyway... Have figured out when I have a lot of routes loaded on my Garmin it's more flaky than with less, this is the 810 itself as mine frequently freezes when loading a course if I have lots of them on there (we're only talking ~20 or so).

Brand new Fizik Arione R3 with braided carbon rails just arrived on my desk :D
An entire £55 it cost me, happy chappy!

Good price! I picked a Sky LE one almost new (with alloy rails) for £60. I've seen more around the £50 price over the xmas period so kicking myself slightly but I like mine's colours (mostly black, white logo).

Saw them new for £65 but they were K:IUM rails and very plain colours.

Considering this turbo http://www.wiggle.co.uk/elite-crono-fluid-elastogel-trainer/

I had wanted to try a Smart trainer but realistically is there any chance of getting one that will change the resistance through software for under £300?

MUIN II's. Think Tom has one of the Muin series if you're after some real world feedback? The Vortex is another (as FT mentioned) but isn't Direct Drive (if that was one of your requirements).

The BBB Hardwear are great, neoprene inners and waterproof outers. Really strong and well made to boot.

Maybe they're the ones I should've got! :rolleyes: Mine are high-viz (which is awesome) but they get so dirty in the crappy weather they look terrible after a few days. I'm back wearing my DHB's as they're black and well worn already, 'saving' the BBB's for longer/social rides :)

Tempted to treat mine with a spray on water-reistant coating, but I have 'Sportful NoRain' leg/knee warmers which really need the same. Guy at my local club said his son bought something you put in the washing machine with the items and it gives them a waterproof layer, anyone know/heard what this is? I begrudge buying new 'water-resistant' leg warmers every 3 months... But also don't want to ruin mine trying some unknown stuff! :eek::mad:
 
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Tempted to treat mine with a spray on water-reistant coating, but I have 'Sportful NoRain' leg/knee warmers which really need the same. Guy at my local club said his son bought something you put in the washing machine with the items and it gives them a waterproof layer, anyone know/heard what this is? I begrudge buying new 'water-resistant' leg warmers every 3 months... But also don't want to ruin mine trying some unknown stuff! :eek::mad:

I think the Mrs uses "Nikwax" on the kid's waterproof stuff, it goes in the washing machine...

Just search for "wash in waterproofing" and see what comes up. Loads of products out there!
 
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Can't remember the name of the stuff I use, but I'll look when I get home tonight.

I think the Mrs uses "Nikwax" on the kid's waterproof stuff, it goes in the washing machine...

Just search for "wash in waterproofing" and see what comes up. Loads of products out there!

Thanks guys, will hold off until I find some I can be sure won't ruin lycra...! :cool:
 
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