Soldato
The rule only applys to British citizens, foreign citizens don't have it, only a British man/woman has to earn £18,600+ it would be great if British people didn't have less rights in their own country.
this country is messed up
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The rule only applys to British citizens, foreign citizens don't have it, only a British man/woman has to earn £18,600+ it would be great if British people didn't have less rights in their own country.
In this case though, it's a relevant comparison in the fact that they're both irrelevant to the decision.
And most that want to leave the EU want that changed
Meh, you know the deal when you take the coin of the realm is exchange for putting your life at risk and potentially killing other people. Career military personnel should receive no special treatment.
An immigrant can get come to the UK and later get married and bring them (non-eu) over more easily?
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An EU immigrant can bring any immigrant with them MUCH more easy and FREE of charge and requirements.
Both for practical reasons and for mathematically verifiable moral reasons, authority and responsibility must be equal - else a balancing takes place as surely as current flows between points of unequal potential. To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy. The unlimited democracies were unstable because their citizens were not responsible for the fashion in which they exerted their sovereign authority... other than through the tragic logic of history... No attempt was made to determine whether a voter was socially responsible to the extent of his literally unlimited authority. If he voted the impossible, the disastrous possible happened instead - and responsibility was then forced on him willy-nilly and destroyed both him and his foundationless temple.
No because they have to become an EU citizen (or have equivalent permission) first. The fact that other EU countries have less lax rules doesn't mean we should necessarily be just as lax.
I wouldn't nessarily be against making them easier, others may disagree though.
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But we want to pick choose our immigrants... He's white, english speaking and a football fan.
Soldato
Hands up if you would like the Dons to impose a minimum of 25 posts before a new user can start a thread? It won't stop all of the Daily Mail posters, but it will stop some of the link-and-run type threads and people posting spam / surveys / cut-and-paste from other forums etc 
Soldato
It's irrelevant though, or at least should be IMO. Depends on your stance/perception of the armed forces I suppose.
Soldato
As a British citizen, to bring my pregnant non EU wife over, first we had to pay for a TB test in the only private approved hospital (the most expensive in the city). Get a housing report to prove there won't be over crowding, 6 months of bank statements stamped by the bank showing I earn over £18,600, proof of relationship and proof that my wife can speak English. Then pay £1000 to submit the application.
8 weeks later we got refused for a visa (£1000 down the drain) only because we submitted proof that she can speak English the highest business level, she worked in the european parliment as a translater after all. They wanted a public ILETS test that a 4 year old could pass. So I had to pay £1000 to submit the application again.
The irony is, if I claimed for a Danish ancestry passport, I wouldn't of had to even pay 2000 pennys, no English tests, no TB tests and no stress at all. Sucks being British in Britain, 2nd class citizens.
8 weeks later we got refused for a visa (£1000 down the drain) only because we submitted proof that she can speak English the highest business level, she worked in the european parliment as a translater after all. They wanted a public ILETS test that a 4 year old could pass. So I had to pay £1000 to submit the application again.
The irony is, if I claimed for a Danish ancestry passport, I wouldn't of had to even pay 2000 pennys, no English tests, no TB tests and no stress at all. Sucks being British in Britain, 2nd class citizens.
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What no? It's a fact, Any non British EU citizen can bring anyone from any country in the world with them and they do.
When has anyone considered the OP's opinions more worthy of debate than their own
I understood the tunnel to be full of cameras to stop this exact thing happening?
Someone in CCTV control needs to get a job where they suck less.
Immigrating together is different to later getting married and bring them to the country.
If it is the case Non-EU citizens can bring a future spouse to the country whilst a UK/EU citizen can't under the same rules, then I agree it is unfair.
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Easily solved, Marek goes back home to Poland and brings his American wife Brandy with him to Britain.
Caporegime
I think this country is messed up, they allow some guy who walk through the channel tunnel to remain in this country yet will not allow the wife of an x British soldier.
They would allow her if she was a British or EU citizen. He knew this before he married her. Too late to complain now.
Soldato
The Surinder Singh route. There is more holes than Swiss cheese, the spouse visa system is just to an exercise to cause stress and heartache for British citizens. Now I have a criminal record in Russia for ****ing around with it twice in Russia and overstaying my visa
