MP Jo Cox murdered in West Yorkshire [Thread title edited]

danielanthony · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:26

When Lee Rigby was killed, were his killers immediately labelled as mentally ill? No. I don't then see why it would be the case here. This guy could have been radicalised by Britain First propaganda and carried out his attack knowing full well what he was doing - Anders Breivik style. Radicalisation isn't something exclusive to Muslims; it can affect any group with a grudge about government policy, perceived injustice or marginalisation.

phil675 · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:31

danielanthony said:
When Lee Rigby was killed, were his killers immediately labelled as mentally ill? No. I don't then see why it would be the case here. This guy could have been radicalised by Britain First propaganda and carried out his attack knowing full well what he was doing - Anders Breivik style. Radicalisation isn't something exclusive to Muslims; it can affect any group with a grudge about government policy, perceived injustice or marginalisation.

Lee Rigby killers stood there and told everyone why they did it on camera. We don't actually have a motive for this killing yet.

[FnG]magnolia · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:32

It's very sad but not altogether surprising that the mods have had to remove so many posts from posters who want to conflate the tragic death of an innocent woman with their political views.

I know you're not ashamed but you should be.

RIP.

Dis86 · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:33

phil675 said:
Lee Rigby killers stood there and told everyone why they did it on camera. We don't actually have a motive for this killing yet.

In addition to that, the mentally ill don't tend to congregate together and work as a covalent group. Most illnesses that lead people to kill also tend to cause solitary, reclusive behaviour.
It's why serial killers most often tend to work alone.

Scania · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:36

hurfdurf said:
It doesn't take a giant leap to go from Britain First rhetoric to incenting violence, and it bares discussion if there is a link, mentally ill or not.

Going from rhetoric to inciting violence is a huge leap I'd say, I doubt very much anybody on either side of the brexit debate would think today's events were linked to the upcoming referendum.

From the reports I've heard it would appear she intervened in a dispute between two men (another man was reported slightly injured) and whack job turned on her.

Turambar · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:46

Scania said:
Going from rhetoric to inciting violence is a huge leap I'd say, I doubt very much anybody on either side of the brexit debate would think today's events were linked to the upcoming referendum.

From the reports I've heard it would appear she intervened in a dispute between two men (another man was reported slightly injured) and whack job turned on her.

What reports have you been hearing? The ones in your head don't count.

Dis86 · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:51

Turambar said:
What reports have you been hearing? The ones in your head don't count.

Read the thread. The first few pages link to several.

Freakbro · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:55

Arazi said:
Yeah but Put Britain First is whole lot different than Britain First.

That was my point

mjt · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:10

I'm confused by the reports. Did she get caught up in a dispute between two blokes, or did the other bloke confront the nutter after he accosted the MP?

The way I read it, some dude had a gun pulled on him before the nutter shot the MP.

Scania · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:25

Turambar said:
What reports have you been hearing? The ones in your head don't count.

http://news.sky.com/story/1713039/mp-jo-cox-killed-in-appalling-street-attack

This amongst many others.

I've had my radio on since this was first reported,also read a lot on Sky/BBC etc.

The latter part of your signature is quite appropriate.

Scania · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:28

mjt said:
I'm confused by the reports. Did she get caught up in a dispute between two blokes, or did the other bloke confront the nutter after he accosted the MP?

The way I read it, some dude had a gun pulled on him before the nutter shot the MP.

BBC seem to think the former, Sky the latter.

The Mad Rapper · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:35

Tragic news. I understand she was a mother of two; very sad.

The Mad Rapper · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:36

Mynight said:
Wow.

Well lets proscribe Britain first. Simples.

Such a waste of life . Cant even imagine what her family is going through right now .

What are Britain First? Rebadged NF?

Narj · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:39

The Mad Rapper said:
What are Britain First? Rebadged NF?

About two dozen people talking crap and sharing **** on Facebook as far as I can remember.

Monkeynut · 17 Jun 2016 at 00:40

The Mad Rapper said:
What are Britain First? Rebadged NF?

Like the NF but less brownshirts and more football hooligans.

hurfdurf · 17 Jun 2016 at 01:02

Reports coming in that he was a big supporter of white supremacy in South Africa...

Akagi · 17 Jun 2016 at 01:36

So he was a racist nutjob recluse then...

hurfdurf · 17 Jun 2016 at 02:19

Acme said:
So he was a racist nutjob recluse then...

It was a popular movement not long ago. The Police even supported it.

Scania · 17 Jun 2016 at 02:53

hurfdurf said:
Reports coming in that he was a big supporter of white supremacy in South Africa...

hurfdurf said:
It was a popular movement not long ago. The Police even supported it.

http://www.farhangnews.ir/sites/default/files/content/images/story/94-07/14/farhangnews_149477-437336-1444117987.IMG][/QUOTE]

I think you'll find the anti apartheid movement was the popular one supported by most, Police included, to say the white supremacist movement was popular is laughable even coming from you!

hurfdurf · 17 Jun 2016 at 03:08

Scania said:
I think you'll find the anti apartheid movement was the popular one supported by most, Police included, to say the white supremacist movement was popular is laughable even coming from you!

Above are the police removing a protestor for protesting outside the embassy, just "following orders"