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remember as lammy has said , its not legally binding (unlike the Scottish one) - so it could be used as a huge opinion poll.....
remember as lammy has said , its not legally binding (unlike the Scottish one) - so it could be used as a huge opinion poll.....
It won't be.
Best they address this immediately Monday morning.
More instability is not what is required.
Hardly an opinion if you see what is going on. It's crystal clear no one had a plan on what to do if leave won. It's an utter **** storm.
The people it will hurt the most are hardworking people looking at mortgages and families.
Like Andrew marr has said it probably wont be as good as they hope or as bad as they fear. Probably.
This hysteria whilst to be expected is not helping
remember as lammy has said , its not legally binding (unlike the Scottish one) - so it could be used as a huge opinion poll.....
?? One of the biggest threats the no camp threw at the Scottish people was that there would be no guarantee we could join the EU and that it's better to be in the UK that is already in the EU :/
There will be riots if they overturn it or try to use it as an opinion poll. I don't think anyone truly believes that we won't end up leaving. The issue is how long is it going to take and how badly is the economy going to be hit in the short to medium term.
It won't be.
Best they address this immediately Monday morning.
More instability is not what is required.
It has to be said again as people seem to forget, we have an opt out. We don't have to be part of a EU force. We are a member of a bigger organisation called NATO.
You mean like at present/recent past where we used a French aircraft carrier as we have none ourselves for the moment.
2) The number of businesses saying that their clients are looking to decamp to Europe and that they'll have to follow them is about a dozen so far. I expect more to follow as the multiplier effect spreads out. It's not too much of an issue while we're still inside but I am totally blind to see what's going to happen after a couple of years, do I have to open a European branch?
only via the EU not directly
if le pen wins next year , between her and merkel the uk would have an easier time of elaving the EU - the EEA (if a few more agreements can be modified ala lichenstein) is more akin to what was voted for in 1975.
Heres a thought : those born in the 50`s and 60`s remember the promises made in 1975 because they WERE the young then! They remember , about how glorious the EEC would be - well they have lived with it for 41 years , seen how its grown far far beyond the question asked then and evolved into something they didnt want *federalism* , maybe , just maybe they voted LEAVE now , because they saw what went wrong and are actually looking out for the young now with the ` dont **** it up because we did and want to fix this`
Conjuring up reasons after the fact to make yourselves look less stupid. This reasoning was what I expected from the seniors, but not one of you said anything remotely close to this with any conviction, or even articulation before the vote.Indeed,
Remember that Heath admitted in his latter years that the long term plans of the EU were deliberately concealed on the grounds that had the British people known back in 1975 what voting to join the EEC really meant, We would have been unlikely to have gone for it.
Is it really any surprise that those of us who supported the idea back then no longer do so.
Despite all the vitriol being aimed at the Tories and specifically those campaigning for a leave vote, it's actually Labour who've lost this one.
As stated many times, it's those we traditionally refer to as the working classes who will be hit the hardest yet they've voted in their masses to leave. How many interviews and sound bites do we hear from people blaming immigration for everything and that the EU does nothing for them. These are, by and large, staunch Labour voters and it was Labour's job to get the message across to them about how they'd be affected by a decision to leave. Under Corbyn's (total lack of) leadership, they failed completely and thus the referendum was lost.
It's quite upsetting how this referendum result has somehow given people who previously had to repress their racist views an idea that they are now the majority and so it's acceptable.
I've had a fair few emails from customers over the weekend.
1) What the hell is going to happen with data protection laws in the intervening period between leaving and getting a treaty established? I have pan-European customers who use our services here who don't know if they can continue hosting stuff in the UK in the next two years.
2) The number of businesses saying that their clients are looking to decamp to Europe and that they'll have to follow them is about a dozen so far. I expect more to follow as the multiplier effect spreads out. It's not too much of an issue while we're still inside but I am totally blind to see what's going to happen after a couple of years, do I have to open a European branch?
3) The more general feeling is that London is going to get hammered with jobs losses as multinationals start stepping out of the city. That's bad news for the country as a whole.
It's quite upsetting how this referendum result has somehow given people who previously had to repress their racist views an idea that they are now the majority and so it's acceptable.
JP Morgan have already committed to moving large numbers of staff starting next week. A few of our clients do work for them.I'd love to see how many businesses saying they'll move actually do, and how many are just run by huge remain supporters throwing their toys out of the pram because they've just been told they can't have their favourite flavour of ice cream.