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Soldato
Bit of a crazy btcc meeting today, driving standards a bit dubious at times. Crash at the start of the third race was very dodgy, lucky the cameraman wasn't badly injured. For those that haven't seen it, a car rolled over the barrier and demolished the camera perch with the cameraman still stood on it.
Soldato
Read my post
also in 2008
you have 4 engines
Ferrari 056
BMW P86/8
Renault RS27
Mercedes FO108V
also in 2008
you have 4 engines
Ferrari 056
BMW P86/8
Renault RS27
Mercedes FO108V
Soldato
and?
still produced 5 race winning teams
compared to 2
still produced 5 race winning teams
compared to 2
Soldato
Yes as teams were on more equal playing field
yes and no, only saying no as other Mercedes teams haven't done much
Soldato
more teams were winning races so yh
Soldato
what do you think?
I think the universally agreed best of the V8 engines won only 2 of the 8 V8 WDCs.
The V8s were considered so unballanced certain manufacturers were given special permission to upgrade.
There are far bigger factors that define the competitiveness of the F1 field than the engines.
If you gave everyone in F1 the same engine now, do you think we would see a massive flattening of the competitive hierarchy (apart from Honda)? The best and worst team on the grid currently have the same engine.
The V8s were considered so unballanced certain manufacturers were given special permission to upgrade.
There are far bigger factors that define the competitiveness of the F1 field than the engines.
If you gave everyone in F1 the same engine now, do you think we would see a massive flattening of the competitive hierarchy (apart from Honda)? The best and worst team on the grid currently have the same engine.
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Soldato
The V6 era has been skewed by the Mercedes dominance.
A dominance clearly not defined by the engine as no other Mercedes team has stuck with them, and there's Mercedes engines at the top and bottom of the grid.
Giving everyone the same engine won't suddenly make F1 equal. Giving them all 10 year old V8s certainly won't, and won't be cheaper, and will be slower, and will cause a number of manufacturers to leave.
A dominance clearly not defined by the engine as no other Mercedes team has stuck with them, and there's Mercedes engines at the top and bottom of the grid.
Giving everyone the same engine won't suddenly make F1 equal. Giving them all 10 year old V8s certainly won't, and won't be cheaper, and will be slower, and will cause a number of manufacturers to leave.
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Soldato
if they had stuck with V8's do you think Mercedes would dominate like they are now if "dominance clearly not defined by the engine" ???
No, because Mercedes would have quit.
The order has been shaken up by the engines, but they aren't the only reason Mercedes are winning. They were a race winning car in 2013 remember, and easily have the biggest budget by far.
The order has been shaken up by the engines, but they aren't the only reason Mercedes are winning. They were a race winning car in 2013 remember, and easily have the biggest budget by far.
Soldato
so why would they quit?
Because they said they would along with Renault. They had no interest in continuing with an NA V8s.
The commitment to V6s happened a while before 2013. It was even delayed a year from when they first planned to have them, wasn't it?
The commitment to V6s happened a while before 2013. It was even delayed a year from when they first planned to have them, wasn't it?
Soldato