Poll: Investigatory Powers Bill or "Snoopers' Charter" has been approved

Are you happy with the investigatory powers bill being passed?

  • Yes, I fully agree with it.

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Yes, but I am uncomfortable with certain aspects of it.

    Votes: 31 5.5%
  • I am undecided.

    Votes: 27 4.8%
  • No, but I do agree with parts of it.

    Votes: 103 18.2%
  • No, I fully disagree with it.

    Votes: 391 69.1%

  • Total voters
    566
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It doesn't even need to be abuse. Lets say you hear about someone convicted of making a bomb, and the article you are reading has a few details on the type of bomb - but you can't see how it would work, how exactly would bleach and coat hangars make a bomb? Your curiosity gets the better of you. You have a quick search. Oops, that's now evidence you looked for bomb making techniques.

Or even this very conversation - hypotheticals become evidence. Hypothetically speaking, I could say "I want to blow up parliament." That springs up on a watchlist (OMGHI2U GCHQ! /me waves) and context is lost. Now there's something that says I want to blow up parliament. (Twice, now!)
 
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Who can view my internet history ?

A list of who will have the power to access your internet connection records is set out in Schedule 4 of the Act. It’s longer than you might imagine:

Metropolitan police force
City of London police force
Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
Police Service of Scotland
Police Service of Northern Ireland
British Transport Police
Ministry of Defence Police
Royal Navy Police
Royal Military Police
Royal Air Force Police
Security Service
Secret Intelligence Service
GCHQ
Ministry of Defence
Department of Health
Home Office
Ministry of Justice
National Crime Agency
HM Revenue & Customs
Department for Transport
Department for Work and Pensions
NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
Competition and Markets Authority
Criminal Cases Review Commission
Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
Financial Conduct Authority
Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
Food Standards Agency
Food Standards Scotland
Gambling Commission
Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
Health and Safety Executive
Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
Information Commissioner
NHS Business Services Authority
Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
Office of Communications
Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
Scottish Ambulance Service Board
Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
Serious Fraud Office
Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust

The world when your isp gets hacked.
 
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Won't a VPN counteract all this?

Yes. It will still be logged but all it will show is that you connected to a VPN and sent a certain amount of data through it. They won't be able to see what that data is, or what site you visited. More people need to use one because frankly, with the amount of logs being kept and the amount of organizations that will have access to this database, it really is a matter of time before an employee gets mad/security vulnerability is discovered, and internet history is leaked online.
 
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So that when you apply for a job as a nurse they can tell you that the position is already filled because your internet porn tendancies makes you a potential threat to patients. :p

:D I hope internet search histories dont become part of a common job application :D.

Wish them good luck with that, since a huge amount of businesses use them for staff to securely access their data. Plus for them to technically do it would be very difficult.

I imagine there would be some kind of "authorised" VPNs for business.

Not really sure on the technicalities of doing so though. Its not like technicalities have stopped them doing things in the past though :D.
 
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Most of the reason why I voted remain was because of the very strong evidence that left to its own devices the UK would become an authoritarian surveillance state with increasingly limited freedom and increasingly diminishing protection for everyone from everything. Which is what's happening.

In all fairness, I don't see the EU stepping in and trying to stop it right now. If they were, it'd raise my opinion of them significantly.

Ironically having voted to Leave, I'd now like to know if there's any way the British public can push this over to the EU to stop it. I don't think they'd listen to us little people, though.
 
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Signed, at least I've added myself to a watchlist for when it gets completely ignored :D.

Lets be honest if it were going to get repealed it would never have made it this far.
 
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Wish them good luck with that, since a huge amount of businesses use them for staff to securely access their data. Plus for them to technically do it would be very difficult.
This is the same government who think its possible to back door encryption and keep the system secure. They can and probably will try anything.

Won't a VPN counteract all this?
To a certain extent, but if you think you're completely safe or anonymous on a VPN; you're not.
 
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This is the same government who think its possible to back door encryption and keep the system secure. They can and probably will try anything.

To a certain extent, but if you think you're completely safe or anonymous on a VPN; you're not.

The really paranoid could use TOR over VPN... come at me bro! :p

As long as your VPN terminates somewhere that'll tell uk.gov to get stuffed, all is good.

I'd love it if the Queen refused to give this bill royal assent.
 
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