To deny Islam it a factor in these terrorist attacks is part of the problem.
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To deny Islam it a factor in these terrorist attacks is part of the problem.
Soldato
Because they're doing it in the name of Islam. Irrelevant that it goes against the Quran, tell the terrorists that!
Like i said go and read the Quran you can't cut out sentences as it becomes out of the content, if you look at the ISIS they do the same to brain wash fools.
Cherry picking a certain phrase of a verse to validate your own prejudices GD never fails.
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The continued supression by the liberals, of peoples genuine concerns regards a radical religion, will ultimately lead to more far right activism as people search for anyone who will listen to them.
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Not sure how you can say that...trucks didn't exist in the 5th century.
I'll take "whats a kafir" for 500 please Bob
Soldato
How's that?
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The Quran mentions all those sentences. Its fact.
Its ok though mate you carry on denying the fact that Islam is a radical religion which has no place in todays society.
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I can post quotes out of context too.
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Oh so you can change quotes?
Good man - you won that!"kill the unbelievers where you find them" Quran 9:5
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Oh so you can change quotes?
"kill the unbelievers where you find them" Quran 9:5
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I find 47:4 to be quite enlightening too.
A lot of hate for Muslims in this thread but what can one expect when the only media attention Muslims get is when it's something negative.
Yes, some Muslims have extremist views but the amount of people who would actually act on these is very small. The same can be said for any person who holds extremist views regardless of motivation (i.e. religion, personal belief etc..)
**** nationalism where people seem to think we're superior because we live in the 'West' / England. These migrants are running from war and terror attacks in their own countries, what do you expect them to do? Sit around and wait to be blown up or have their heads chopped off? Fight? Because we all know everyone here would be happy to pick up a gun and go charging into battle with 0 war experience.
Some of you are absolute morons.
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Yes, some Muslims have extremist views but the amount of people who would actually act on these is very small. The same can be said for any person who holds extremist views regardless of motivation (i.e. religion, personal belief etc..)
**** nationalism where people seem to think we're superior because we live in the 'West' / England. These migrants are running from war and terror attacks in their own countries, what do you expect them to do? Sit around and wait to be blown up or have their heads chopped off? Fight? Because we all know everyone here would be happy to pick up a gun and go charging into battle with 0 war experience.
Some of you are absolute morons.
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Soldato
I think an important distinction that needs to be made to some people in this thread is that there is Islam and then there is Islam. The former may constitute everyone from conservative to Jihadist/fundamentalist. They are pious and devout and take the Quran literally and employ Sharia law. They are not the majority of Muslims.
The second would be moderate and people born into Muslim families. These people are the majority of Muslims. They do not believe in Jihad or terrorism or Sharia Law. They are the equivalent of Western Christians in terms of how pious/devout they are and how literal they take the Quran.
I see a lot of people generalising in this thread but it's important to be aware of the distinction. I have a Muslim friend. He does not pray five times a day or go to the mosque but he has a vague belief in Allah. He's what I would refer to as a cafeteria Muslim. Much like most Christians. He's a good man and wouldn't hurt a fly.
The second would be moderate and people born into Muslim families. These people are the majority of Muslims. They do not believe in Jihad or terrorism or Sharia Law. They are the equivalent of Western Christians in terms of how pious/devout they are and how literal they take the Quran.
I see a lot of people generalising in this thread but it's important to be aware of the distinction. I have a Muslim friend. He does not pray five times a day or go to the mosque but he has a vague belief in Allah. He's what I would refer to as a cafeteria Muslim. Much like most Christians. He's a good man and wouldn't hurt a fly.
And look at the disproportionate damage that minority is doing.
Unfortunately, there are some people here who are too naive/narrow minded to understand this.
It is all down to cultural values. These people don't have our values, there is a whole host of behaviour coming out of this part of the world that are completely backward compared to the modern western society.
I would urge people to stop talking about religion and talk about the actual actions of these cultures. This is where the problem lies. We all know that Muslims can intergrade, I personally know, and I hate this phrase "moderate Muslims" who have intergrated.
The problem is people who want to bring the culture of the Middle East and operate it in the West. Our society is not compatible with this culture, again it is not Islam as such it is practicing the elements of Islam that do not fit.
I would urge people to stop talking about religion and talk about the actual actions of these cultures. This is where the problem lies. We all know that Muslims can intergrade, I personally know, and I hate this phrase "moderate Muslims" who have intergrated.
The problem is people who want to bring the culture of the Middle East and operate it in the West. Our society is not compatible with this culture, again it is not Islam as such it is practicing the elements of Islam that do not fit.
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Caporegime
Indeed, sigh.
You have groups of people from both end of the spectrum on here.
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