144hz to 60hz - WOWzer

[Spike_UK]

I held out purchasing my Alienware 15 R3 just so I could get one with a 120hz display.
I've had 144hz on my desktop for a year and wouldn't go back to 60hz again. It makes my eyes hurt.

 

[Glanza]

Difference is there dropping from 144 to 60, but going from 144 to 100 wasn't much difference at all for me.

 

[fishyswaz]

Yeah, 100 to 144 isn't that noticable (could be though that I'm older). 60Hz though just feels like you're mousing through syrup.

 

[Doogles]

The motion blur from 60hz 144hz is the biggest help, no more headaches for me!

 

[titaniumx3]

I went back and forth between 144hz and 60hz a few times. Whilst I didn't stay with 144hz for too long (shoddy monitor panel quality ) and did find the step down to 60hz horrid, I quickly adjusted. To be completely honest, I am quite happy with my U2515H pixel response and 60hz refresh rate. Yes 144hz is much smoother, but 60hz is still completely playable so long as the monitor itself is decent.

 

[geordiejc]

I presume you mean vulkan

That will be down to higher FPS as well as the better frame times/latency that these low level APIs provide.


I know it is very subjective and all but personally I think people over exaggerate the 60HZ experience. No doubt 100+HZ is way better especially where motion clarity is concerned (more so if you can actually achieve a constant 100+HZ to get the true benefit...) but imo 60HZ is not anywhere as bad as what some make out.

The problem largely comes down to the games and people not experimenting with different configs, on 120/144HZ monitors, you have more leeway with regards to more intermediate steps for synchronisation:

60Hz: 16.7ms, 33.3ms, 50ms (60, 30, 20 fps)

120Hz: 8.3ms, 16.7ms, 25ms, 33.3ms, 41.7ms, 50ms (120, 60, 40, 30, 24, 20 fps)

144Hz : 6.9ms, 13.9ms, 20.8ms, 27.8ms, 34.7ms, 41.7ms, 48.6ms (144, 72, 48, 36, 28.8, 24, 20.5 fps)

On top of that, people generally don't take the time to experiment with different configs i.e.

1. most don't like vsync so run without it, which introduces stutter and screen tearing, this adds to the perception of more stutter
2. those who do use vsync don't take the time to properly set it up to get the smoothest and best experience i.e.

- ensuring you get as close to a constant 60FPS as you can, personally I can't can't stick anything less than 50FPS with a frame latency of more than 20ms (prefer to be stuck at a constant <15ms frame latency)
- using frame limiters, either capping FPS with rivatuner at 61/62, 60 or 58/59 can help a lot, not only can it help with making the game smoother but it can vastly reduce the input lag usually associated with vsync
- testing out in game vsync with fullscreen mode or sometimes borderless mode with vsync off in game (the game will use windows vsync method, which is pretty good) or using nvidia's adaptive vsync
- messing about with GPU buffered frames in the config files or GPU control panel (I think only nvidia have this in their control panel)

Can you elaborate a little more on this as i don't fully understand it: if i get 50fps in a game, should i run the monitor in 144hz or 60hz mode?

60Hz: 16.7ms, 33.3ms, 50ms (60, 30, 20 fps)

120Hz: 8.3ms, 16.7ms, 25ms, 33.3ms, 41.7ms, 50ms (120, 60, 40, 30, 24, 20 fps)

144Hz : 6.9ms, 13.9ms, 20.8ms, 27.8ms, 34.7ms, 41.7ms, 48.6ms (144, 72, 48, 36, 28.8, 24, 20.5 fps)

 

[jaffveyda]

Would any of you guys considerate 24 inch screen for 1440p@144hz?
The 27 inch screens with g sync are outside of my budget, should i go for 27 inch with freesync and hope for my GTX 1070 to keep up with the games. I don't have any experience with higher refresh monitors at all.

 

[Nexus18]

Can you elaborate a little more on this as i don't fully understand it: if i get 50fps in a game, should i run the monitor in 144hz or 60hz mode?

60Hz: 16.7ms, 33.3ms, 50ms (60, 30, 20 fps)

120Hz: 8.3ms, 16.7ms, 25ms, 33.3ms, 41.7ms, 50ms (120, 60, 40, 30, 24, 20 fps)

144Hz : 6.9ms, 13.9ms, 20.8ms, 27.8ms, 34.7ms, 41.7ms, 48.6ms (144, 72, 48, 36, 28.8, 24, 20.5 fps)

The steps thing only really applies to when using vsync.

You should stick with 144HZ mode regardless of what FPS you are getting.

And going by your sig, you have gsync so all that is rather mute for sync tech users anyway

 

[SC0TTRS]

So i've recently switched to 144hz gaming from 60hz. I played for a week and tried 60hz again, i swear that it was like 25fps... horrific, once you go 144hz you never go back.... i cannot stress how bad 60hz gaming looks... i honestly compare it to a console... anyone else experience this ?

100% agree and could never go back. Can't believe anyone that doesn't noticed the difference when they first try it.