It still isn't clear what you're whining about, this thread has a specific point, and you've come in and started whining about conspiracies. First part of your post is just complete nonsense with no discussion value whatsoever. I don't even know what question you're asking or what I can do to help you stop whining. I thought my reply was good, but you've now just switched to an even lower level, I cant go any lower I'm afraid.
dowie;30485376 said:
Re: Derren Brown - you don't seem to understand - he's a magician, you seem to have a slightly delusional belief in NLP and seemingly now 'mind control' too and are under the impression he makes use of it. You don't appear to be aware of misdirection - again he's a magician, he performs magic tricks - the things he says and does shouldn't be taken at face value.
Face palm honestly.
Magicians rarely talk for goodness sake unless they're telling someone to pick a card or hold something, ever watch the masked magician on Channel 5 10 years ago? Never uttered a word.
In contrast Darren Brown talks ALL throughout his show. His misdirection is the result of language/linguistics for goodness sake. Not physical/visual misdirection like David Blaine.
Visual magic is something totally different, David Blaine will never spend 1 hour talking to the camera trying to
verbally manipulate people into thinking that he's
actually pulling a rabbit out of his arse.
Derren cant do visual misdirection at all lmao. I'm guessing you've forgotten the time he tried guessing the lottery numbers by using a camera trick haha. And all throughout his act he was using
words on the viewer to make them believe that a bunch of random people came up with the numbers through some sort of collective telepathy.
Now all you've done is tell me that you cant differentiate between visual misdirection and psychological misdirection. lol.
Please don't try to understand Derren Brown's tricks when you think media psychology is just "waffle".
If you don't want to talk about media psychology why not just step away from the topic instead of bringing your nonsense conspiracies and your frankly poor understanding of "magic"? You cant say two people performing vastly different types of misdirection are both doing the same thing. One is based on linguistics, the instillation of trust, the viewer believing stuff which is false; the other magic is based on pure visual misdirection.
Even disregarding entire fields of academic study as "waffle".
You cant even think deep about magic. You have very low level thought. And when presented with an entire field of academia dedicated to studying the effect of media on people's psyches, you just brush it off as "oh it's just waffle". Haha
Comes into thread about media and psychology. Has a little whine about how everything's a conspiracy. Brings Derren brown into it. Then says media psychology is waffle.