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I usually revive who ever I can.

If all you guys are going PC then this is going to be an expensive year for me, don't think my HD7950 and i7 2600k will cut it (2600k might at 4.8ghz). Like you though oweo, I've been needing a good excuse to build another one. If anything I'll save up and see what happens nearer launch, Volta might be out by then and intel are bringing more core's to the mainstream plus i9 (which will most probably be way out of my range). Anyone wanna buy a kidney??
 
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Most people have better things to do than pore over the 'meta' and 'god roll' weapon stats....and just play the game for fun, crazy I know!

Even with the ever-changing balance tweaks crucible has always been fun.
 
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isn't intel still better for gaming though? ryzen just has more cores so better for encoding? most games cannot make use of all the cores ryzen has for instance. especially when intel already has lots of cores and hyperthreading.

surely it makes sense just to upgrade your cpu for whatever the best is in your current socket then upgrade the GPU? rather than blow it all on a full system.

when i was looking at parts 3 months ago everyone said forget ryzen, so i got kabylake.

It is, but Ryzen is so much more cost-effective. For how much you spend, Ryzen gives you more. It's also more future-proof, owing to more cores for how much you pay. The i7 series are just as good but you have to pay more. Not worth it. Competition is a great thing.
 
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I usually revive who ever I can.

that is exactly my point. you cannot do this now. well in the game mode we saw at least.

you get 1 revive per round. if you die you lose that revive. so you can no longer chain revive. you also have to choose whether to revive or hold onto it or choose between who you want to revive.

2 players down on your team. you can only revive 1 therefore the other cannot be revived by either you or your team mate. will make the game more campy as nobody wants to die. focus will be on pushing as a team or picking up the heavy ammo of which only 1 of you can.

Most people have better things to do than pore over the 'meta' and 'god roll' weapon stats....and just play the game for fun, crazy I know!

Even with the ever-changing balance tweaks crucible has always been fun.

really? so why does everyone tend to use meta weapons? it's not fun playing the game when your using a non top tier weapon. e.g. how about you use the ace of spades in crucible against even the worst rolled palindrome and see what happens.

it was the same with every meta you need to move with it or you cannot compete. if you cannot compete then how fun is it dying to meta weapons every round?

this is why some people are even against having weapons with different rolls if they want to make it competitive. everyone should be on a level playing field like counter strike for instance.

i just got a god roll silvered dread. i can now see why people love the thing. before i had a terrible roll, i'd never get the type of sprees i get now. like i said the other day i got 4 phantom medals in a week. it makes a HUGE difference.
 
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it's not just 4v4 that will be an issue.

4v4 is the least of my worries to be honest. I just posted over in the PC forum, but TL/DR - Bungie are stepping up to the PC table now, you think those guys coming in are going to settle for a mediocre pseudo-competitive P2P PvP in Destiny 2? I'm both excited and worried to see how Bungie handle this. IMO they are in for a shock and at the bare minimum they need to buckle up and get a ranked playlist system in place
 
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really? so why does everyone tend to use meta weapons? it's not fun playing the game when your using a non top tier weapon. e.g. how about you use the ace of spades in crucible against even the worst rolled palindrome and see what happens.

it was the same with every meta you need to move with it or you cannot compete. if you cannot compete then how fun is it dying to meta weapons every round?

this is why some people are even against having weapons with different rolls if they want to make it competitive. everyone should be on a level playing field like counter strike for instance.

Because I use whatever setup/loadout I feel like playing and don't much care whether I win or lose as long as I had fun playing.

Same reason I've never started a competitive match on Overwatch :p
 
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Because I use whatever setup/loadout I feel like playing and don't much care whether I win or lose as long as I had fun playing.

Same reason I've never started a competitive match on Overwatch :p

Exactly why they should have a similar system in Destiny 2! Give people the choice
 
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Exactly why they should have a similar system in Destiny 2! Give people the choice

Oh I think it would be good to have a proper competitive mode and ranking. Looking forward to ranked in For Honor, one game I do actually like to get a bit sweaty in.

I just like winding up Sonny when he gets all in a froth over god rolls and the like :p
 
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i've not mentioned anything about god roll weapons at all as my gripes. where did i even say anything like your suggesting?

it's not just 4v4 that will be an issue.

by removing revive abilities upon death, as well as only 1 person you can revive per round it's made the game a lot more tactical.

do you revive someone with a 0.6 k/d in your team or wait to see if the player with the 2.0 k/d dies and then revive them? what happens if you die before the 2.0 k/d player does? it's made it a lot more tactical. the average player will just see a dead team mate and revive them. or they will see 2 dead team mates and revive whoever is closer not taking their skill into account.

only 1 person can pick up the heavy ammo. so let's say you like to snipe but then you have someone with a 3.0 k/d in your team who also likes to snipe. you then effectively can no longer play the game how you want to play as your better off giving the guy with the 3.0 k/d the sniper ammo.

i can see it becoming a camp fest. let your best player get the heavy ammo then push for a pick. they have taken all the fun out of the crucible unless they have other game modes with completely different rules.

show me where i mention god roll weapons. your the one that mentioned it not me. so how can i be getting worked up about them when i've never mentioned them once until after you did?

more about revives, 4v4 and they have effectively made it a primary meta. if you like to snipe you no longer can or you will have to fight your own team mates for the 1 sniper ammo drop per side.

jump into a game and have some idiot on your team steal the heavy ammo for your side who is useless then he's effectively throwing the game away to the other team. if you like jumping into the crucible for fun then the things like this will matter. good luck having fun in the crucible if you like special or heavy weapons as now you don't get them unless you pull it before anyone else does.

what is being discussed is that they have removed fun from the crucible it's now a competitive mode just without ranks, playlists.

you won't have any of the fun you had in destiny 1 with the changes that have been implemented and none of those changes effect god roll weapons so i don't know what your going on about tbh. none of the changes are to do with meta either apart from primary only. however the developers have said they don't like balance in the game and effectively they want you to completely change the weapons you use every time they do a weapons patch. so you like using auto rifles? good luck when most of the metas make them non viable.

all your doing is showing you know nothing about the current or the new game. and as a games developer that is worrying.
 
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Oh come on Sonny I even had a smiley on there, take a chill pill.

Not sure what my knowledge of the Destiny meta has to do with my job coding for Ubisoft!
 
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Sonny, wanna play a 1v1? I'll use the Ace of Spaces or whatever it is, you can use a Palindrome.

It will be fun, because that's what counts right? It's a computer game after all.

Exactly why they should have a similar system in Destiny 2! Give people the choice

Agreed.

There should be 3 categories of matches; ranked, casual and private/custom. Ranked consisting of a level based system, leaderboards and fixed settings tweaked per season or whatever aka MLG. Casual with higher player counts and fun game types.

Private matches to sit in between both.
 
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Words fail me, christ...

Surely the issue isn't really with the tweaks they are trying to do, its what they've not added (or not added/shown yet). They had to do something pretty drastic to weapon balance anyway. The on going Special ammo saga is why we have the current Ice Breaker "meta" in 3v3 etc.
 
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I have just started buying bits for Ryzen build to replace my I5 4670k which is still fine for gaming but I 've had it 4 years and want to show Amd some love for finally giving Intel some competition, let's hope it's the same with Vega!

Going to end getting it on PS4 too so I can play with my son and his mate but looking forward to seeing how the PC version when shows up will be balanced, I watched the IGN fireteam chat video and they were a bit evasive about it. Just hoping it's not another GTA V scenario.
 
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Nah, the whole thing is special weapons are limited, they won't matter in the grand scheme. You just need to get good with a primary and its not even an issue, which is hard for the typical Destiny player that is so used to 1 shot kills for 3 years, but its the norm in most games. The ammo changes are great and I'm really pleased about them overall.

Also I'll be getting it on PC/PS4. Not sure which one well be my main.
 
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Cool :)

Yeah the new (well tweaked) raids are a good laugh (even with 6 Warlocks.. lol). IIRC it is Crota this week and VoG next.

I don't really have anything I want to grind for anymore in the game but it is still good to jump in every now and again.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRPzW6YmL8

DF talked to a network specialist, who's also an ex developer from Respawn Entertainment and Sony, and he said Bungie could have offloaded some features of the games (physics, AI, etc...) to the cloud with dedicated servers and thus, Destiny 2 could have been 60fps (on PS4 Pro at least).

makes sense, you are hosting the game, you are processing everything client side then sending it out to other 6+ players :(
 
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