I live in the UK, what Trump does or doesn't do or say is irrelevant to me.
You can't have it both ways you either do not discriminate or you do, what's it to be sunshine?
bbc drops itself in the...ya know. (discrimination)
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You can't have it both ways you either do not discriminate or you do, what's it to be sunshine?
When it means they are in the wrong.
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I must admit, I have never really paid much attention to Karl Marx's views on race - do please tell us more.
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Well my particular favourite is his "racial trash must perish in a revolutionary holocaust" quote.
He wasn't a big fan of the Scottish Highlanders, Basques or Slavs. In his opinion anybody who identified their culture based upon their race must be exterminated. Marx didn't want multiculturalism, he wanted a monoculture of complete Communism.
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Blocking someone from a job position because of skin colour is racist and always has been. Seams it’s gone from once side of the spectrum to the other.
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What a mess this country has become.
Positive discrimination, just wow.
Positive discrimination, just wow.
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Why don't Turkeys look forward to Christmas I wonder?
He didn't have an awful lot to say about race (thanks Paul for highlighting what he did have to say on the matter) .. He did however have a rather discredited idea that sought to explain disparities in outcomes via alleged systemic oppression.....
Hence the usage of cultural Marxism (based on the proposition of systemic discrimination on basis of things like race and gender identity etc) to be distinguished from 'classical' marxism based on systemic discrimination based on class
He never said it wasn't?
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I would suggest that denying training for "white people" whilst giving training to "BAME people" means that BAME people will be better equipped to do the job that both groups can apply for. If not then what is point in the training?
Presumably you’re very much against things like this then as well?
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.teleg...fered-3000-sweetener-induce-train-nurses/amp/
Much like the article in the OP it’s a way of trying to persuade more of a minority into a profession they are under represented in and/or don’t normally consider.
Presumably you would argue that that bursary could make the difference between a woman being able to afford to go to nursing school or not, but it’s only available to men so it may stop better female nurses.
And no, that’s not what’s “currently happening” in the vast majority of cases. What’s actually happening is making sure Isobel get a chance to show if she is better than John. If she is she gets the job, if not, John gets the job. Otherwise Isobel may not even get an interview because her name may well look foreign, or she is judged as unable because of her sex or skin colour.
There is still currently massive discrimination (much of it may well be unintended) against ethnic minorities and people with certain foreign sounding names. The aim of these schemes is to try and get passed that.
Not explicitly no, but why claim it’s his country if he didn’t? It’s a very odd turn of phrase if not.
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Personally, I am against any scheme that offers an advantage to any race, sex, religion etc, and for whatever reason, and the more we offer them relevancy by being part of any criteria the more the issue will remain.
In respect of that link if there is an 'issue' with male nurses in the profession I fully understand that its a gender stereotyped profession (as are many other professions), but I believe that the 'block' is more down to personal preconception than some invisible barrier or monetary hurdle that prevents men entering the profession. Nursing for many of its professionals is a vocation. Do we really want people to enter the profession because they were offer three grand towards their training?
If men don't want to enter the profession where is the 'issue' if they are comfortable with the status quo? Is this just a complication for the sake of it? Is this a result of the sudden requirement in society to make each and everything gender fluid/neutral?
As we have seen from a few posts in here, it seems that the moment anyone yells out in protest against positive discrimination, the pitchforks and the 'Trump' comparisons come out, where actually I believe in most cases its the complete opposite.
I would be critical of this training scheme if it restricted to white people as much as I am at the current reality, as I mentioned the more we talk about race as being relevant, the more credibility and importance we seemingly give it.
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I don't know how I would feel as a non-white being interviewed by the FA knowing that i'm not being interviewed because they think I would be suitable for the job but because they just need to put a tick in a box. Sounds very racist to me.
The Rooney rule comes from the NFL and resulted in a dramatic increase in black coaches being hired.
Black coaches were suitable for the job but they weren’t getting a foot in the door for whatever reason.
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The Rooney rule is a great addition to the NFL, but from my understanding it did not exclude other races from the interview process. This is very different to what is happening in the case of the BBC in my opinion,
Maybe I haven’t read the original post properly but my understanding is that the BBC is giving BAME candidates a boost in applying for jobs (through additional trainining) rather than making jobs open to BAME candidates only.
It’s a clumsy and imperfect way to boost diversity at the BBC but I don’t understand the level of outrage.