The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

Trender · 26 Jan 2018 at 21:09

AMDMatt said:
Most likely it is faulty. Can you try it in a different system?

Sadly I can't it as I only have this one my pc and my friends pc are just old asf, it would be a disgrace if it were faulty because its the "Limited Edition" I bought with love, btw if you wonder yes im the same guy I posted in the amd community forum).
Also I dont know if its coincidence, but definitely when im with relive and/or amd osd, both or only 1, cod ww2 just crash faster and im telling you thats tested because with both it crashes under 5-7 mins several times I tried it and withouth it takes more time to crash (also all of this is with hbcc)

LtMatt · 27 Jan 2018 at 08:43

Trender said:
Sadly I can't it as I only have this one my pc and my friends pc are just old asf, it would be a disgrace if it were faulty because its the "Limited Edition" I bought with love, btw if you wonder yes im the same guy I posted in the amd community forum).
Also I dont know if its coincidence, but definitely when im with relive and/or amd osd, both or only 1, cod ww2 just crash faster and im telling you thats tested because with both it crashes under 5-7 mins several times I tried it and withouth it takes more time to crash (also all of this is with hbcc)

What about if you don't use HBCC? HBCC it using system memory, so if there is any issue with your system memory, faulty, unstable frequency/timings, lacking voltage etc, then that could cause various issues in itself. Keep things simple when troubleshooting a possible faulty GPU.

LtMatt · 27 Jan 2018 at 09:16

Some new Vega 64 reference air and Vega 64 AIB benchmarks.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-rx-vega-64-gaming-oc-review,5441-3.html

GoogalyMoogaly · 27 Jan 2018 at 11:37

AMDMatt said:
Some new Vega 64 reference air and Vega 64 AIB benchmarks.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-rx-vega-64-gaming-oc-review,5441-3.html

The AIB looks pretty disappointing compared to the reference. I think usually people expect the AIB cards to run cooler and faster than the reference cards and while the Gigabyte Gaming OC Vega 64 did it wasn't by much.
For the same price you could get a AORUS GTX 1080TI "XTREME EDITION", which makes it look poor value, imo.

JediFragger · 27 Jan 2018 at 12:36

GoogalyMoogaly said:
For the same price you could get a AORUS GTX 1080TI "XTREME EDITION", which makes it look poor value, imo.

Pricing is all over the place atm, and if these were closer to what they should be (450-500) then they'd be a decent option!

GoogalyMoogaly · 27 Jan 2018 at 13:07

JediFragger said:
Pricing is all over the place atm, and if these were closer to what they should be (450-500) then they'd be a decent option!

not if the 1080Ti was also 450-500.
But prices are what they are.
I think the Vega 64 needs to be like 75-80% of the 1080Ti price to be worth it (which not too long ago I think they were, but now...).

JediFragger · 27 Jan 2018 at 13:29

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I think the Vega 64 needs to be like 75-80% of the 1080Ti price to be worth it (which not too long ago I think they were, but now...).

Nah it's a funny card, sometimes getting beat by the 1080 FE and sometimes being within touching distance of the Ti. Being so unbalanced it needs to be 1080 FE pricing level imo.

nashathedog · 27 Jan 2018 at 13:45

GoogalyMoogaly said:
The AIB looks pretty disappointing compared to the reference. I think usually people expect the AIB cards to run cooler and faster than the reference cards and while the Gigabyte Gaming OC Vega 64 did it wasn't by much.
For the same price you could get a AORUS GTX 1080TI "XTREME EDITION", which makes it look poor value, imo.

Gigabyte have been corner cutting with AMD cards since the die shrink, They released what was considered to be the worst AIB 480, I tried their AIB 560 and sent it back as it was terrible with temps and noise which on such a low end card is disgraceful, If you read the Tom's Hardware review on the Gigabyte Vega 56 AIB they were making excuses for it from start to finish, For me I was expecting the Gigabyte card to be lacklustre, If anyone wants an AMD card they should always go for an AMD only brand like Sapphire or Powercolor as the others often dive into the parts bin to see what they have that'll fit rather than properly develop a cooler for the specific AMD card. Asus ands MSI did it with Hawaii and Gigabyte did it with the 480.

Alex74 · 27 Jan 2018 at 14:06

AMDMatt said:
Okay should be fine.

I don't see that issue though and mine are both overclocked and undervolted.

What PSU are you using?

I'm thinking it might be a power issue. I spent some time testing with lengthy loops on Valley and Heaven and a couple games today with no problems in xfire. As soon as I use balanced/turbo profiles with FurMark it instantly crashes. What PSU are you using in yours? Might be mine's just not up to the task...

EDIT: I'm lying again, turns out now furmark crashes (screen corruption, cards seem to switch off) even in power save mode >_<

LtMatt · 27 Jan 2018 at 14:25

Alex74 said:
I'm thinking it might be a power issue. I spent some time testing with lengthy loops on Valley and Heaven and a couple games today with no problems in xfire. As soon as I use balanced/turbo profiles with FurMark it instantly crashes. What PSU are you using in yours? Might be mine's just not up to the task...

EDIT: I'm lying again, turns out now furmark crashes (screen corruption, cards seem to switch off) even in power save mode >_<

I wouldn't use Furmark, it just draws a lot of power through the cards and potentially shortens life span of the components.

I'm using a 2000W 8Pack PSU, but I've also used a 1200W Thermaltake Gold PSU as well.

Alex74 · 27 Jan 2018 at 15:06

AMDMatt said:
I wouldn't use Furmark, it just draws a lot of power through the cards and potentially shortens life span of the components.

I'm using a 2000W 8Pack PSU, but I've also used a 1200W Thermaltake Gold PSU as well.

May be worth an upgrade then. Thanks, I'll keep testing for now and see how it goes

Paul Campbell · 27 Jan 2018 at 23:37

These cards seem to have very brief current spikes that could potentially knock a PSU for 6, depending on the design. Need separate cables for each 8pin connector too I would say.

uncivil_engineer · 27 Jan 2018 at 23:44

Paul Campbell said:
These cards seem to have very brief current spikes that could potentially knock a PSU for 6, depending on the design. Need separate cables for each 8pin connector too I would say.

Definitely agreed on the cabling, especially if you plan on running the card over 225W, since that might run some cables out of spec and cause some slight... burning.

nashathedog · 28 Jan 2018 at 09:32

Gigabytes Vega 64 Gaming OC review

A once-over of the PCB suggests that, once again, Gigabyte omitted many components found on its pre-production sample. The list of missing features begins with a Holtek microprocessor for RGB controls and ends with a second BIOS IC, which we miss a lot more. In the end, what remains is a cut-down version of what started as a much more ambitious project.

This quote is one of several that suggest that like Gigabyte's 56 Gaming OC the 64 Gaming OC was a reluctantly produced product (made as cheaply as possible) that will more than likely be inferior to the AIB Vega's from Sapphire, Powercolor & Asus.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-rx-vega-64-gaming-oc-review,5441.html

It's good to see that at 2560x1440 the Vega 64 beats out the 1080 in all bit 1 of the games tested in this review.

Steampunk · 28 Jan 2018 at 12:07

nashathedog said:
Gigabytes Vega 64 Gaming OC review

This quote is one of several that suggest that like Gigabyte's 56 Gaming OC the 64 Gaming OC was a reluctantly produced product (made as cheaply as possible) that will more than likely be inferior to the AIB Vega's from Sapphire, Powercolor & Asus.

Such a shame that the company with the best rep for customer service is producing such shoddy products. Instead we have to get better cards from companies with rubbish customer care.

Paul Campbell · 28 Jan 2018 at 12:34

uncivil_engineer said:
Definitely agreed on the cabling, especially if you plan on running the card over 225W, since that might run some cables out of spec and cause some slight... burning.

It's not burning that's the only concern though and there's a good chance that, certainly for short periods, the single cable will survive at 300W. The ability of the PSU to handle transient current spikes trough the single cable makes it less stable - so can cause voltage drops.

Those double connector cables shouldn't exist.

pete910 · 28 Jan 2018 at 12:42

Paul Campbell said:
It's not burning that's the only concern though and there's a good chance that, certainly for short periods, the single cable will survive at 300W. The ability of the PSU to handle transient current spikes trough the single cable makes it less stable - so can cause voltage drops.

Those double connector cables shouldn't exist.

While I see what you mean trouble is, most are split anyway it's just internal to the PSU and you don't see it all be is soldered.
I agree though , I have never like them spliters if pulling a lot of power

Paul Campbell · 28 Jan 2018 at 13:38

pete910 said:
While I see what you mean trouble is, most are split anyway it's just internal to the PSU and you don't see it all be is soldered.
I agree though , I have never like them spliters if pulling a lot of power

Soldered to a busbar internally is fine. Modular PSUs with connectors have an additional problem because of the resistance in the contacts (generating heat which limits their rated capacity) but also the higher resistance of the single cable over two separate ones comes into play as well - higher resistance means larger voltage drop. The only difference between a 75W 6pin and a 150W 8pin are additional earth returns to lower resistance... which is all for nothing if you double up the connectors.

silversurfer · 28 Jan 2018 at 15:48

SO the card with triple 8 pin isnt helping you reckon, it spreads the load. I always undervolt, I dont consider it a good config when I move away from 200w too much but its good to have any limit possible for shorter use

nashathedog · 28 Jan 2018 at 16:57

Steampunk said:
Such a shame that the company with the best rep for customer service is producing such shoddy products. Instead we have to get better cards from companies with rubbish customer care.

It is, They've also reduced the usual 3 year warranty down to 2 years for Vega,

If they can't be arsed AMD should cut them loose so they can stick to Nvidia which is where their focus is. Half arsed products damage AMD's reputation and seeing as there's this apparent lack of chips they'd of been better off giving them to Sapphire or Powercolor.