Flat earth brigade - I have no words

doodah · 8 May 2018 at 10:50

Do these people also believe in the [flat] fake moon landing?

VincentHanna · 8 May 2018 at 10:51

Yep, they said it was faked.

Dirk Diggler · 8 May 2018 at 11:11

PiKe said:
Just seriously, I feel a little more stupid for watching this, the ISS doesn't exist either, it's just a film set

"Get the International Space Station to zoom out so we can see people walking upside down"

Hilarious!

Glaucus · 8 May 2018 at 11:14

lol, that doesn't even make sense, they often fly about on camera and stand either way up.
so many group chats where some are standing up, some hanging down and then objects floating all on the same screen, that's some set work and pullies.

dumb ass people, but I agree with Alex_6n2 , as well as there seems to be a decent amount of trolls in that group, but far from most.

dirtychinchilla · 8 May 2018 at 11:15

With regards to things moving across the horizon, the gravity of the earth, I believe, is sufficient to "bend" light around it. Therefore it may well look like a flat horizon with a powerful pair of binoculars, but that's because the light that's reaching your eyes is bending around the earth with curvature.

These people are full idiots.

aardvark · 8 May 2018 at 11:50

dirtychinchilla said:
With regards to things moving across the horizon, the gravity of the earth, I believe, is sufficient to "bend" light around it. Therefore it may well look like a flat horizon with a powerful pair of binoculars, but that's because the light that's reaching your eyes is bending around the earth with curvature.

nah, not even close - its refraction and well documented.

dirtychinchilla · 8 May 2018 at 11:55

aardvark said:
nah, not even close - its refraction and well documented.

I stand corrected! What kind of gravity would you need to bend the light?

Dis86 · 8 May 2018 at 12:00

dirtychinchilla said:
I stand corrected! What kind of gravity would you need to bend the light?

Earth does bend light. The deflection is tiny though however still detectable!

The effect is called gravitational lensing.

doodah · 8 May 2018 at 12:11

^ doesn't that make a great telescope in space?

Glaucus · 8 May 2018 at 12:14

doodah said:
^ doesn't that make a great telescope in space?

Not earth size, but galaxy size gravational lensing, yes.
Oh and I'm not sure great is the right word. But it has let us see father than ever before.

aardvark · 8 May 2018 at 12:27

dirtychinchilla said:
I stand corrected! What kind of gravity would you need to bend the light?

millions if not billions of times more massive - in fact if you want to bend light over such a short distance its going to be an insane number far higher.

dirtychinchilla · 8 May 2018 at 12:52

Dis86 said:
Earth does bend light. The deflection is tiny though however still detectable!

The effect is called gravitational lensing.

Awesome, thanks.

aardvark said:
millions if not billions of times more massive - in fact if you want to bend light over such a short distance its going to be an insane number far higher.

It's quite difficult to comprehend the sort of distances that we're really speaking in terms of.

mrk · 8 May 2018 at 17:32

aardvark said:
millions if not billions of times more massive - in fact if you want to bend light over such a short distance its going to be an insane number far higher.

A black hole is the most obvious one, but even planets (well solar systems really or galaxy clusters and stars bend light. This is called gravitational lensing, which astronomers use to photograph distant objects in the galaxy.

loftie · 8 May 2018 at 17:35

Malevolence said:

lmao.

Flibster · 8 May 2018 at 18:00

This makes my head hurt...

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=25011.0

Freakbro · 8 May 2018 at 18:15

Flibster said:
This makes my head hurt...

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=25011.0

Reply #3

Perhaps radar would do the trick, but the effect of Dark Energy on the electromagnetic radiation would need to be taken into account.

That escalated quickly

SexyGreyFox · 8 May 2018 at 18:24

VincentHanna said:
So does anybody know why flat-earthers think there is a global (hehe) conspiracy to hide that the Earth is flat?

I've just asked the question in a Facebook group.

stopper · 8 May 2018 at 18:57

Pawnless Endgame said:
Pffft. There are numerous videos of hobbyists launching phones / drones / other recording devices into the Earth's atmosphere and the footage picks up the planet's curvature. Hell, even onboard a ferry, you can see a slight curvature. Those with such beliefs and other extreme beliefs should read the "How To Life" manual. How they're intelligent enough to apply for a job and get given a job offer begs the question.

How about this, if you pause it on one of the frames at 3:40, it shows the earth is flat, pause at another frame in 3:40 and it curves upwards, pause it on another at 3:40 and it shows us it's round as we believe, which really shows us the earth is actually flat and that the fisheye lens they used distorts the earth to be round when it's at the right angle.

I know the earth is round btw, I'm just having fun by pointing out how that video can't be used as evidence because of the lens distortion. They use those lenses for wide angle shots.

aardvark · 8 May 2018 at 19:13

mrk said:
A black hole is the most obvious one, but even planets (well solar systems really or galaxy clusters and stars bend light. This is called gravitational lensing, which astronomers use to photograph distant objects in the galaxy.

i meant if you wanted to bend light over a short distance like the video suggests (a few km) would take a huge amount of mass.

Thekwango · 8 May 2018 at 19:40

I don't pay much attention usually to gofundme's and such like crowd funding but I would be sorely tempted to put some coin in to pay to put a couple of these nut jobs into the mig someone linked to earlier......just to see how they bs their way out of it.....if they still didn't accept the earth was round i'd suggest another flight and eject them at the planes highest point.