Windows 10

Rroff · 29 Dec 2018 at 14:35

4K8KW10 said:
There are warnings, maybe someone else saw them but let the clock ticking. I mean if you go to Windows Update, install important updates, a clock timing appears as to when later the restart will happen. Someone missed it.

Absolutely no warning in this case - I'd only had it turned on for a few minutes and was present all the time until it restarted itself.

darael · 30 Dec 2018 at 10:35

This should please a lot of people....not: Microsoft could force Windows 10 update onto users

Microsoft has rolled out a silent update to a KB article – KB4023814 – that hints towards the latest Windows update being forced onto users, reports Softpedia News.

“If you’re currently running Windows 10 version 1507, version 1511, version 1607, version 1703 or version 1709, your computer detects the Windows 10 Update Assistant automatically,” says the KB4023814 article.

“Then, you can expect to receive a notification that states that your device must have the latest security updates installed and then initiates an attempt to update your device.”

Microsoft previously told users that it would not force updates onto them after doing this when Windows 10 was a free upgrade for older Windows operating systems.

The latest Windows update, initially released in October, has been plagued with issues.

Microsoft paused the update after numerous reports of users losing personal files.

After re-releasing the update, users reported other issues in programs such as Windows Media Player and Win32 apps.

Dirk · 30 Dec 2018 at 11:51

darael said:
This should please a lot of people....not:

No different from all the other forced updates. The solution is still the same.

Rroff · 30 Dec 2018 at 22:25

Dirk said:
No different from all the other forced updates. The solution is still the same.

Not sure if its a bug or some new KB update but I've twice now had a system, while I was in the middle of something, post 1809 go to a blue restarting screen with the dots spinning in a circle with no warning and then launch into updates - I think MS has pushed something else through intentionally or unintentionally but too early to be sure.

Dirk · 30 Dec 2018 at 22:42

There's a bit more about KB4023814 here:

https://www.tenforums.com/windows-1...play-notification-install-latest-version.html

Dirk · 31 Dec 2018 at 23:33

Do you know what the most frustrating thing about Windows 10 is for me? That i'm not able to simply buy an LTSB License. It would be the perfect SKU for me. No feature updates. No Store or UWP apps. I could install the 1803 version and just use it for the next decade.

It's a total bummer.

Rroff · 1 Jan 2019 at 00:02

Dirk said:
Do you know what the most frustrating thing about Windows 10 is for me? That i'm not able to simply buy an LTSB License. It would be the perfect SKU for me. No feature updates. No Store or UWP apps. I could install the 1803 version and just use it for the next decade.

It's a total bummer.

Annoys me more they don't make the Professional edition more useful in that respect - I'd happily pay for it to get what I wanted and it would give options - to a degree they could do what they wanted with Home if I could pay for Pro to get away from it.

V F · 1 Jan 2019 at 00:06

Wasn't there a time when Pro actually had a meaning?

4K8KW10 · 2 Jan 2019 at 12:13

Windows 10 tops with highest market share: https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?options={"filter":{"$and":[{"deviceType":{"$in":["Desktop/laptop"]}}]},"dateLabel":"Custom","attributes":"share","group":"platformVersion","sort":{"share":-1},"id":"platformsDesktopVersions","dateInterval":"Monthly","dateStart":"2017-05","dateEnd":"2018-12","plotKeys":[{"platformVersion":"Windows 7"},{"platformVersion":"Windows 10"},{"platformVersion":"Windows 8.1"},{"platformVersion":"Linux"}],"segments":"-1000"}

Rroff · 2 Jan 2019 at 13:53

I hate that some equate that to what people's opinion is of an OS - with an increasing amount of hardware sold with Windows 10 and ostensibly needed with some newer CPUs, etc. and a lot of lower powered laptops and tablets, etc. having hardware that only has drivers for Windows 10 it is going to slowly take over

snowdog · 5 Jan 2019 at 04:00

Is there like a complete user made patch for Win 10 Pro which kills all the malware in one go? Eg. all the spying, defender (I choose not use any realtime AV on my home pc, screw anything that's not needed and uses resources, and slows down stuff like installing MSI's), compattelrunner, onedrive, and all the other malware that a gaming PC doesn't need...
These days I don't run Windows update as I was sick of the feature updates always braking one thing or the other, I'm on a relatively new build 1803, and everything works, but I'm avoiding updating for now...

I see quite a big difference between my Home pc which runs very nippy indeed, and my work pc which has al the crap still on, and also has random issues after updates often. See spikes of defender taking cpu time or slowing Iops down, etc...

I'm also very not fond of more and more stuff moving to the new ''settings'' screen, or the structure of some things changing.

It's like them idiots try to deliberately make you search for things, or do more clicks to do the same as before. Also keyboard controlling it is terrible. Metro apps are terrible for both small resolutions screens and for huge desktops with multiple screens, ugh.

Everything they are moving to (eg. trying to phase out x86) is annoying me. for work I've been working more and more on Linux based systems, and I'll probably make the move somewhere in the next few years.

Edward78 · 5 Jan 2019 at 18:05

darael said:
This should please a lot of people....not: Microsoft could force Windows 10 update onto users

Can't wait, :mad:

MS... Hey guys https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

AthlonXP1800 · 6 Jan 2019 at 15:20

Hello to Sanity! Microsoft Will Finally Allow You to Pause Updates on Windows 10 Home

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-windows-10-home-pause-updates/

Windows 10 Home users finally will able to pause updates for up to 7 days in next feature update 19H1, no need to disable Windows Update service wuauserv in Task Manager.

Rroff · 6 Jan 2019 at 15:26

But what happens after 7 days? and/or trying to work out if you need to pause ahead of time. Another begrudging half solution to a problem.

They seriously need to streamline the application of security updates (more defender like in approach) - most user wouldn't begrudge an extra 10-20 seconds now and again at boot time for critical security updates either and find a better way to deploy feature updates.

AthlonXP1800 · 6 Jan 2019 at 17:46

Rroff said:
But what happens after 7 days? and/or trying to work out if you need to pause ahead of time. Another begrudging half solution to a problem.

Simple click pause updates button again for another 7 days!

They seriously need to streamline the application of security updates (more defender like in approach) - most user wouldn't begrudge an extra 10-20 seconds now and again at boot time for critical security updates either and find a better way to deploy feature updates.

https://mcpmag.com/articles/2018/08/24/windows-10-smaller-updates.aspx

They already improved it with smaller updates size in 1809. Why would Microsoft need to find a better way to deploy feature updates??? It no different to deployed service pack in XP, Vista, 7 and 8 through Windows Update. Same with many Linux distro like Fedora which deployed 2 features updates a year since 2004.

I checked Windows Update history on all 6 devices.

Quality Updates (11)
2018-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4483235)
Successfully installed on 20/12/2018
x64 119.3MB
x86 36.3MB

2018-12 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.7.2 for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64 (KB4470502)
Successfully installed on 11/12/2018
x64 53.4MB
x86 28.4MB

2018-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4471332)
Successfully installed on 11/12/2018
x64 119.3MB
x86 37.3MB

2018-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4469342)
Successfully installed on 06/12/2018
x64 116.1MB
x86 35.3MB

2018-11 Preview of Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.7.2 for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64 (KB4469041)
Successfully installed on 06/12/2018
x64 49.5MB
x86 26.3MB

Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB4461579) 32-Bit Edition
Successfully installed on 06/12/2018
1.5MB

2018-12 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4471331)
Successfully installed on 06/12/2018
x64 20.9MB
x86 10.2MB

2018-11 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4477029)
Successfully installed on 22/11/2018
x64 20.9MB
x86 10.2MB

2018-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4467708)
Successfully installed on 13/11/2018
x64 95.8MB
x86 27.4MB

2018-11 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4467694)
Successfully installed on 13/11/2018
x64 20.9MB
x86 10.2MB

2018-11 Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4462930)
Successfully installed on 13/11/2018
x64 20.9MB
x86 10.2MB

November 2018 total size
x64 158.5MB
x86 58MB

December 2018 total size
x64 480MB
x86 175.3MB

1809 Windows Update is very impressive, monthly updates now far smaller than 1803 and older versions which saw monthly updates size something like 3GB total size some people was complained about huge download size. People owned cheap tablets or compute sticks running 32 bit Windows 10 1809 will really have nothing to worry about very tiny updates size far less than 1GB per month.

jonneymendoza · 6 Jan 2019 at 18:16

1809 still doesn't appear for me

AthlonXP1800 · 6 Jan 2019 at 18:34

jonneymendoza said:
1809 still doesn't appear for me

Look like it do not roll out to everybody yet but in waves.

You can download media creation tool and update Windows 10 to 1809.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

V F · 7 Jan 2019 at 07:24

Rroff said:
But what happens after 7 days? and/or trying to work out if you need to pause ahead of time. Another begrudging half solution to a problem.

They seriously need to streamline the application of security updates (more defender like in approach) - most user wouldn't begrudge an extra 10-20 seconds now and again at boot time for critical security updates either and find a better way to deploy feature updates.

"In my opinion the worse problem is that every time you are trying to solve a problem or need to use the PC in a hurry, it seams like MS installs an update."

ChrisD. · 7 Jan 2019 at 12:35

Edward78 said:
Can't wait, MS... Hey guys https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Anyone use this? Feedback?

Rroff · 7 Jan 2019 at 12:43

I've no reason to believe it isn't legit, etc. it works quite well for controlling some of the privacy, intrusive features, etc. aspects but its ability to control Windows update behaviour is limited with Windows often eventually deciding it knows better and overriding it - for that you need the scripts Dirk posted.