Smart Home - Well smart bulbs and plugs!

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I'll be moving house shortly and I'd like to make use of some 'smart tech'. Mainly smart bulbs and plugs so I can set timers and control them remotely.

I have to admit, whilst I'm tech savvy and fully understand 'smart tech', I'm a bit at a loss with the different options available.

I hear good things about Hue but that requires one app and control hub, if I also want smart plugs I'll need another app and possibly hub.

Basically I'm looking for a simple solution where, although the smart plugs and bulbs may be different vendors, I can have a central control hub/ app - I assume this is where something like Samsung Smart Things comes in?
 
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The problem you have at the moment is many many IoT manufacturers developing with various different standards/protocols either don't work or don't integrate well with others.

As far as i know, there are no manufacturers that offer everything under the one app (you can get very expensive solutions, but these aren't necessarily "smart"). This is really where open-source has come in - Home Assistant and OpenHAB are probably the two main contenders that allow you to have a central hub for controlling - more on that below.

For light bulbs, Phillips Hue are the ultimate leaders for smart lighting, they now have a wide range of products from bulbs, to ceiling lights, mirrors, external lights, strip lighting etc. They are generally quite expensive though (look out for Black Friday deals etc) but you typically get what you pay for.

There are other bulb manufacturers that can be controlled as part of the Hue app, one of the well known ones now is Ikea's Tradfri lighting. These tend to be significantly cheaper, although don't have quite the complexity that Hue does. So for example if you're after a standard bulb with just the ability to vary the brightness then Tradfri bulbs are certainly worth looking into. The Hue bulbs can give you colour and white temperature along with dimming.

Hue has originally come with a hub known as a bridge to control the bulbs, i believe the generation released this year now has the ability to control them all via bluetooth, in order to compete with other bulb manufacturers. Personally in my opinion, if you're planning to have a reasonable number of bulbs, then get a bridge.

Smart plugs are something that Hue doesn't specialise in, i did hear there was a LIFX smart plug that could be integrated with the Hue app, but at the time i looked LIFX didn't offer any UK sockets. I've currently got a mixture of TP Link plugs that have energy monitoring, and a brand called Meross, who also offer smart 3/4 gang extensions.

Back to the smart home hub, i've personally favoured Home Assistant over OpenHAB just because there seems to be more of a community of developers behind HA meaning more stuff generally works.

The problem with these solutions is that they are not just a "plug and go", and being open source they require a lot of tinkering to set up. However when they work well, they work very well.

Take a look at some of the dashboards that people have put together here: https://demo.home-assistant.io/#/lovelace/0

There are lots and lots of components that you can use to make your home smart.

Ideally you need to sit down and decide, firstly what your budget is to be (you can end up spending lots), and secondly what are you after, and for which rooms.
 
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The problem you have at the moment is many many IoT manufacturers developing with various different standards/protocols either don't work or don't integrate well with others....

Excellent reply, thanks very muc . Appreciate . I'll look into those various options as you say.
 
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IKEA do colour bulbs now, saw them when I was in there the other day. The Hue range is certainly much bigger though and they do a lot of feature lighting, panels, lamps etc too.
 
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I went down the LightwaveRF route. They do a nice range of sockets and dimmers which I've found to work really well. They also have relays and thermostats and various different sensors but I've not tried these.
 
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Just going to mention Ikea Tradfri. Bulbs work fine as do the plugs. We usually have them set to daylight and full brightness, but we can fiddle with them
We've just got the normal white ones. Didn't need the colour versions (Other halfs mum has the colour ones, they're fine.)
They've got the hub with allows you to use the app rather than just the remotes. The app allows you to setup timers and routines. You can also link through the Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant, which is needed if you want to control them from outside your home wifi. They don't support control over the internet by design.

And it's Zigbee so it's an open standard and compatible with a large assortment of different things too.
 
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(its come up in other threads but)
personally more of a zigbee ecosystem fan ... hubs and bulbs eg Ikea. seem cheaper(maybe because the firmware/electronics are),
can also, more cheaply, get both the remote (smart bulb) dimmer switches, or the dimmers for non smart bulbs
(but non-smart good quality dimmable bulbs seem to be declining - the smart bulbs have stolen the market)

The zigbee windows/PC dongles (instead of a hub) and other IOT devices like real-time meter reading are also attractive.
 
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