Soldato
I will actually rephrase that to taking one third less time, apologies I am very tired
. It's 33% less time but a 50% improvement.-
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I will actually rephrase that to taking one third less time, apologies I am very tired
. It's 33% less time but a 50% improvement.I will actually rephrase that to taking one third less time, apologies I am very tired
That slide either had someone terrible at Maths doing it, or it originally correctly said Intel was 30% slower. Then someone incorrectly just assumed that meant AMD was 30% faster and edited it.
AMD taking 63 minutes instead of Intel's 90 minutes means:
AMD is 43% faster than Intel
and Intel is 30% slower than AMD.
Soldato
Speed = Distance/Time
Intel = 180/90 = 2
AMD = 180/60 = 3
3-2=1.
1 is ~30% of 3.
This is why the slide says 30% faster. You can change 180 to any number you like, the ratio will be the same.
Was never coming. The top end of the graphics card market isn’t a healthy market. AMD are looking for growth.
I really don't think you fundamentally understand what is being said here. You are just manipulating the numbers to try and get a third.
I recommend you ask someone who is qualified at Maths and come back to me. It is the easiest calculation that someone could do.
Lisa Su even says the wrong thing.
https://youtu.be/zUeo7kUzn_8?t=3375
She says if you use the Intel chips it will take 30% more time.
The numbers clearly say 90 minutes vs 63 minutes, which is 43% more time.
Soldato
If it was 50% faster, they would have claimed it. It isn't, so they didn't. I'm not manipulating anything, it's there in the slide... AMD made the claim, and I'm demonstrating how it's been calculated.
What you don't get is that they are wrong. You have been given an answer and you are trying to show me a calculation that arrives at it, no matter how nonsensical it is.
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Fortunately I have the advantage of being on the panel that discusses what kit we buy from Dell, there is already movement in the company from higher up to look seriously at Epyc. Most Global corporate companies have IT and Finance departments closely linked, and as such money talks, TCO and payback are huge factors when looking at hardware refresh, the more you can save the better the board like it.
Unfortunately we just refreshed a few of our esxi hosts with some newer Intel stuff but it had been in the pipeline for a while, but my boss has been asked to look at Epyc for future upgrades.
If Dell is actually serious about using AMD chips, and I personally am not convinced, especially as they showed off an entry level gaming laptop, but if they are, I can imagine we will swap to them as again the costs should be significantly cheaper than the Intel counterparts.
Remains to be seen tho if Dell actually do anything meaningful, I'm not holding my breath as they are so far in bed with Intel it's tough to see where one starts and the other ends.
I have some Cad workstations I need to replace soon with Xeons in them, would much prefer to put Threadrippers in, and swap what little desktops we have for Ryzens, most of our client base is actually laptops, mostly latitude 7xxx series and some 5xxx series, so if AMD can get into the Latitudes it will be huge for them.
Unfortunately we just refreshed a few of our esxi hosts with some newer Intel stuff but it had been in the pipeline for a while, but my boss has been asked to look at Epyc for future upgrades.
If Dell is actually serious about using AMD chips, and I personally am not convinced, especially as they showed off an entry level gaming laptop, but if they are, I can imagine we will swap to them as again the costs should be significantly cheaper than the Intel counterparts.
Remains to be seen tho if Dell actually do anything meaningful, I'm not holding my breath as they are so far in bed with Intel it's tough to see where one starts and the other ends.
I have some Cad workstations I need to replace soon with Xeons in them, would much prefer to put Threadrippers in, and swap what little desktops we have for Ryzens, most of our client base is actually laptops, mostly latitude 7xxx series and some 5xxx series, so if AMD can get into the Latitudes it will be huge for them.
Soldato
If something is done in 2/3 the time, the thing doing it has to be 1.5x as fast. That's just how it is. Because 2/3 X 3/2 = 1.Their calculator is powered by a 64 core processor, mate. They've did their sums.
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Who cares, Dell's stole the show with that Switch like Windows device.
I think Dell will have to. I really like the new XPS13 but it would have to be based on a 7nm Ryzen CPU or I’d look elsewhere.
Not if it takes two things to be almost half as slow.
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Wasn't the 30% faster text not for 30% fast forward? 30% faster then Intel is wrong. It must be higher.
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Yes most disappointing but not totally unexpected. (CES 2019 was pretty much an dud as well).
It's like this electronics show is held too early into the new year for companies to make any major product announcements.
They appear to prefer E3 which is held mid-year.
All this really means is Nvidia gets at least another 6 months free rein unchallenged on the top end, so we can forget about prices coming down.
The best we can hope for is some discounts on drawing Turing stock levels down when the new RTX 3xxx range does eventually drop.
But Nvidia has no argent need to launch Ampere quickly with just themselves as competition.
So looks like my 1080ti is getting another stay of eviction.
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Two trains, 300 miles apart are traveling towards each other with one with a constant speed of 70mph and other 50 mph. Who cares?
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They might do a 'behind closed doors' presentation for partners, that's usually the done thing if silicon is in their hands and usable.
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So basically, you wanted AMD to announce a high end GPU so you could buy a discouned Nvidia card instead?
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Maybe.But that really depends on how good a top end AMD card would be, and what price point it would come in at.