Best practices before running ethernet through your house

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If you're making your own patch cables, then don't cheap out on the connectors - i bought a load of cheap ones thinking how hard could it actually be, but when crimping, there was always a few wires that didn't get spliced.

If you do plan to run any cables externally and money is no issue, then buy all external grade cable. As cable runs always tend to be a lot longer than you think!

If you're making your own patch cables take a step back and consider what went wrong in your life. There are times that plugs need to be crimped, but that's not usually for making patch cables.

Using external grade cable for internal runs is a horrible idea. If you need external grade cable it's easily available in short lengths.
 
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This is turning out to be rather a bigger job than I thought! So before I buy a 24 port switch for a three bed house and drop £2k on this, what's best practices for running cables under carpet and along skirting boards?
Cables can be clipped or stapled to skirting boards, or small trunking can be used. The D-Line trucking is less industrial looking and easier to blend in.

If you have carpets you can often hide a cable down the edge so it sits in the gap between the gripper rods and the skirting.

I wouldn't run cables under carpet, there's usually going to be a better option available. You can get flat cables but they're mostly junk. Any cable under a carpet will eventually start to show through with traffic.
 
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I bought some trunking from ScrewFix and it turned out real great, going from downstairs to upstairs, I have a few photos of the work :

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This is turning out to be rather a bigger job than I thought! So before I buy a 24 port switch for a three bed house and drop £2k on this, what's best practices for running cables under carpet and along skirting boards?

Huh? £150 for cable. £250-ish for keystones and a patch panel (and a 6u bracket mount) and £350 for a really good 24 port PoE switch. How are getting £2,000?
 
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This is turning out to be rather a bigger job than I thought! So before I buy a 24 port switch for a three bed house and drop £2k on this, what's best practices for running cables under carpet and along skirting boards?

There are none. Running under carpet or along skirting is a bodge job, and no matter how much care you take, it'll still look terrible.

You should only lay it under carpet if you can get it under the floor. For skirting, you can buy skirting that has trunking on the back that you can use to run cables.

If you're making your own patch cables take a step back and consider what went wrong in your life. There are times that plugs need to be crimped, but that's not usually for making patch cables.

Using external grade cable for internal runs is a horrible idea. If you need external grade cable it's easily available in short lengths.

You can't really buy short enough cables to go from a patch panel to a switch. I didn't want excess cable just looped round in the rack, so it was neater to make my own.

External grade cable isn't that much stiffer, yes more costly, and if you're not running any cables externally then I agree I would only buy the normal stuff.
 
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Huh? £150 for cable. £250-ish for keystones and a patch panel (and a 6u bracket mount) and £350 for a really good 24 port PoE switch. How are getting £2,000?
I think it's going to be more than 150 for cable. Four runs to each room plus six in living room. And then two or three servers. 10 GbE switch. Labour and parts to chase cables into walls to get up and down stairs, repair plaster, pull up and refit carpet, etc.
 
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Cables can be clipped or stapled to skirting boards, or small trunking can be used. The D-Line trucking is less industrial looking and easier to blend in.

If you have carpets you can often hide a cable down the edge so it sits in the gap between the gripper rods and the skirting.

I wouldn't run cables under carpet, there's usually going to be a better option available. You can get flat cables but they're mostly junk. Any cable under a carpet will eventually start to show through with traffic.
Thanks, all good to know. But is that cable trunking really >£4/2m?
 
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I bought some trunking from ScrewFix and it turned out real great, going from downstairs to upstairs, I have a few photos of the work :

aoOQ8c6.jpg

ojZ6LUB.jpg

xjAXdKk.jpg
Looks good. Any elegant ways to cross landings or whole rooms?
I bought some trunking from ScrewFix and it turned out real great, going from downstairs to upstairs, I have a few photos of the work :

aoOQ8c6.jpg

ojZ6LUB.jpg

xjAXdKk.jpg
Looks good. Any tips for crossing landings or rooms elegantly? Can't make our much from your photos.
 
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I've got about 20 ports round my house and a further 6 in the garage, I used cat6 to replace my existing cat5e due to future proofing, I paid about 80 quid for a box of LSZH Cat6 305m. I've got about 30m left. I decided to replace the mess in the loft as use to have the switch up there but got fed up of the vibration and humming through joists. Everything is now wired directly back to the garage where my homelab is. I've also got a fibre between my main pc and cab in garage just purely due to I already had the fibre left from a job I did a couple of years ago. Fibre is OM3, will probably be barely used but it's there if needed. I've also got a few procurve switches as I like to try things out and bought pre made cat6 patch leads as it was cheaper than my time in terminating 20 cables at each end. I looked at cat7a cable but the price was silly for the benefits. think it was about 400 for a 500m drum of cat 7a excel cable.

My house is all stud walls and didn't have any noggins in due to age and is a bungalow so cabling was really easy, hardest bit was making sure I was actually drilling into the joist for the stud and not going through the ceiling, I did that once and used some 38x25mm trunking to trunk down to behind a tv in the bedroom which covered the hole. I've also got cable basket installed on the uprights in the loft to keep the cables off the floor so they don't get damaged. Again this was took from a strip out that I did and thought i might use that one day.

As for cabling a decent patch panel is a must as cheaper ones the end connectors can splay slightly if you press on at an angle. Decent tools for stripping are essential and i've got a small very sharp pair of cutters to cut the kevlar cord and snip the inner separator. I use a cheap punchdown tool, but change it often,bough 10 for 8 quid off ebay and after a few hundred uses you can see the wear on it. I've got a cheap network tester that works great, but i've also access to a fluke certifier for if I want to certify the cables, completely overkill in a home.

I'm looking at going 10gbe to my servers but the rest of the house is 1gb. All my network sockets are located next to mains sockets, i've also got 2 points in the loft for short patch leads to be passed through for APs which will be powered by POE. I've also got separate cables for my cctv cameras which is wired directly into the NVR. I wish i'd thought more about camera placement and the way the cable runs to them, they're not neat and i've already broken 1 run and had to rerun it. If you are going to run any cable outside ensure you either get UV or duct grade cable as otherwise the sheath does break down and starts cracking, or run normal stuff in trunking/conduit to protect it from the elements.

I didn't have to pull any floorboards, but have done in many installs, and it can soon triple the length of the job. Floorboards themselves are not to bad, but if it's a newer build it'll probably have tongue and groove chipboard which means having to cut into it and hoping there isn't anything underneath when you do. My mate wanted cables to his bedrooms in a 3 story house and after having looked at the walls none lined up but we had the soil pipe boxed in which we used to get to the 1st floor and the 2nd floor was run outside up behind the drainpipe to hide it slightly. I've also routed it round rooms using D line cable trunking as it looks neat and being half round seems to blend in better than traditional trunking. I've also used 16x16mm square trunking for vertical runs in corners of rooms and used decorators caulk to blend it in. Can get 3 cables in fairly easy.

Hope this is some useful info.
 
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Looks good. Any elegant ways to cross landings or whole rooms?

Looks good. Any tips for crossing landings or rooms elegantly? Can't make our much from your photos.

Sorry mate, im no expert on this, only advice I can give is the trunking along the skirting boards in the rooms. The most obvious one for me is the tube at the bottom of the stairs as you can see the "white tube" on the very first step.
 
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I think it's going to be more than 150 for cable. Four runs to each room plus six in living room. And then two or three servers. 10 GbE switch. Labour and parts to chase cables into walls to get up and down stairs, repair plaster, pull up and refit carpet, etc.

If you’re not doing it yourself, then sure, £2K will cover it. From your posts it seemed to me that you were going to do it yourself. Just get a specialist in (HiFi installers usually have reasonably priced install teams) and they’ll sort it out for you.
 
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If you’re not doing it yourself, then sure, £2K will cover it. From your posts it seemed to me that you were going to do it yourself. Just get a specialist in (HiFi installers usually have reasonably priced install teams) and they’ll sort it out for you.
By the sounds of it I'll need to rent enough tools to make it worth paying the extra £1k to subcon it out.
 
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By the sounds of it I'll need to rent enough tools to make it worth paying the extra £1k to subcon it out.

Yes, I would say if you’re not kitted out already then it could get very pricey especially if you want a decent SDS Drill for chiselling out channels etc. In terms of termination, if you buy a good punchdown tool, and you’re not looking at making your own patch leads, then £50 should cover your networking tools. Maybe £100 if you want cable tracing and testing. £500+ if you want proper certification-grade cable testing gear.
 
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At what point do you really need a patch panel? If I've got say one bedroom and one living room and a wireless access point in the loft or wherever is there any point in getting a patch panel?
 
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Use a patch panel if it suits your own requirement. There's no hard and fast rule.

If you only have a few cables you can have normal faceplates at both ends of the cables or even crimp plugs onto the switch end. Whatever you do, leave plenty of cable spare so you can change it later without having to extend or re-pull cables.
 
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Is there any obvious disadvantages going external to get to rooms rather than running internally? I ask as I have cable entry points in most rooms (thanks to the old owner) and I'm wondering if it would be okay to just run cable externally utilising the holes drilled by the telewest/cable crew.
 
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Use external grade cable and you'll be fine. Normal cable will work as well but is more easily damaged and the PVC jacket can degrade with UV light.

Make sure you install the cable so water can't run down it into the holes.
 
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No, no issues running externally. If you want the cable to last, you should use external grade cable or run it in trunking. I like the Screwfix 25mm circular plastic trunking. You can get 4 CAT6 cables in each pipe and it has an excellent range of radiussed bends to make it easy to pull the cable round corners. It’s cheap and easy to cut and join together.
 
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