Need a new dishwasher

CryptKeeper · 3 Jun 2020 at 15:22

Moved into a new house late last year. The 8 year old integrated dishwasher has just packed in. Had someone out to look at it, they said it's not worth fixing.

Looking to get a new one.

Are all (full sized) integrated dishwashers the same size? Do I need to check if it fits or are they a standard size?

Whats the difference between a £350 one and a £1200 Miele one?

200sols · 3 Jun 2020 at 15:25

They are all the same width but the depth can vary, not by much but sometimes it matters so worth checking. I have never spent that much on a dishwasher and I cant think why you would want to. Pretty much any Bosch, AEG or NEFF in the £4-600 range would be my choice.

CryptKeeper · 3 Jun 2020 at 15:27

200sols said:
They are all the same width but the depth can vary, not by much but sometimes it matters so worth checking. I have never spent that much on a dishwasher and I cant think why you would want to. Pretty much any Bosch, AEG or NEFF in the £4-600 range would be my choice.

Yeah I don't understand why they are so expensive. People say these Miele ones last twice as long, but they still only come with a 2 year warranty, so IDK.

the shadow · 3 Jun 2020 at 15:38

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bosch-SM...r-with-12-Place-Setting-Capacity/401615755606

fobose · 3 Jun 2020 at 15:45

I replaced mine last October, was a cheap no brand thing and didn't clean too well even after taking it to bits to see what was wrong. I went with a bosch with the cutlery draw rather than the basket at the bottom. Recommend it, very quiet too.

P.S would never go back to a dish washer with the cutlery basket

https://ao.com/product/smv46kx00g-bosch-serie-4-standard-dishwasher-black-46668-23.aspx

SeatIbiza · 3 Jun 2020 at 16:42

fobose said:
I replaced mine last October, was a cheap no brand thing and didn't clean too well even after taking it to bits to see what was wrong. I went with a bosch with the cutlery draw rather than the basket at the bottom. Recommend it, very quiet too.

P.S would never go back to a dish washer with the cutlery basket

https://ao.com/product/smv46kx00g-bosch-serie-4-standard-dishwasher-black-46668-23.aspx

Second this, I have the older version of it and it's great and very quiet and cleans 99% of the time.

Dangerous Dave · 3 Jun 2020 at 18:12

I recently got a new dishwasher, got a Siemens one. It's a rebadged Bosch £200 cheaper than the equivalent Bosch model and came with a 5 year warranty compared to 2 on the Bosch.

NickK · 3 Jun 2020 at 20:06

I have a serie 6 Bosch, silent and the cutlery tray is just awesome.

every so often run a finish cleaner pod through for a wash. Still looks new.

PlacidCasual · 3 Jun 2020 at 20:55

Bosch is the first place I look for white goods. Been happy over the years.

cheesyboy · 3 Jun 2020 at 21:09

Our Bosch one's coming up to 8 years, think it was in the region of £450. IIRC we had to get a fix under warranty early on, and last year the heat pump went, which I managed to diagnose and replace myself (£70), quite a fiddly job, but preferable to a whole replacement.

Otherwise, it's been decent. Runs probably 10 times per week on average (14 under lockdown!).

Puzzled · 3 Jun 2020 at 21:57

Read that the cheaper Bosch models (serie 2 I think) have issues with plastic components failing and leaking.

I don't get the cutlery draw, it takes longer to load / unload and didnt dry as well as the basket versions in the one I used.

I do like the sound of the extra drying features like the door automatically opening or using air blowers to finish things off but will have to wait until the old one dies.

SpeedFreak · 4 Jun 2020 at 09:03

Have a Siemens which is basically a Bosch. The best thing is having a separate cutlery tray. It's been solid for 7 years now.

Jez · 4 Jun 2020 at 09:59

Dangerous Dave said:
I recently got a new dishwasher, got a Siemens one. It's a rebadged Bosch £200 cheaper than the equivalent Bosch model and came with a 5 year warranty compared to 2 on the Bosch.

This is very good advice, seems to be getting ignored so thought i would bump it

Not sure i follow people on the cutlery tray having never had one, do these lift off like the basket does on a normal machine? If not then how are these anything other than a massive inconvenience of having to trek back and forth to put the cutlery away?

fobose · 4 Jun 2020 at 10:08

It means you have more room in the bottom of the dish washer. I can normally grab all cutlery easily in both hands and take to the cutlery draw. I do load them so that all spoons, knives and forks etc are together and not random. I literally just grab two types in one hand using different fingers and then drop them in the cutlery draws holder. Takes me 10 seconds and 1 trip.

Jez · 4 Jun 2020 at 10:12

Perhaps this works in practice, i am sure that it does, its just that i have never had a machine like that. Currently with lifting an absolutely rammed basket out, taking that over to the drawer area, and then putting away and sorting from there...i cant picture not being able to do that

I get having more space at the bottom, but in a "normal" machine you can just load extra bowls and sieves and pans over the top of the mugs and glasses right into the roof of the machine anyway. Swings and roundabouts i guess

fobose · 4 Jun 2020 at 11:35

I hadn't before either until I lived at my mother in laws for 5 months and used theirs. Game changing for me anyway.

dessimpson · 4 Jun 2020 at 11:45

I got a Samsung integrated one (with cutlery drawer....awesome!) and fitted it myself. Absolute doddle to do. Came with a big stencil so you can attach the cubpoard door in the right place.

bobuk · 4 Jun 2020 at 12:14

I've ad a Hotpoint for about 10 years, been going well until last year. Fortuitously I had some insurance on appliances with Hotpoint, the machine was rebuilt (new motor and electrics and so on )hopefully will last a lot longer.

fastwunz · 4 Jun 2020 at 15:58

bobuk said:
I've ad a Hotpoint for about 10 years, been going well until last year. Fortuitously I had some insurance on appliances with Hotpoint, the machine was rebuilt (new motor and electrics and so on )hopefully will last a lot longer.

you are a brave man getting a hotpoint appliance haha!

Praetorian · 4 Jun 2020 at 19:19

I had my kitchen done about 3 months ago and decided to splurge on a dishwasher (why never before I don't know!!). Ended up getting one from John Lewis, JLDWW1327, and it's been fantastic! It's quiet and gets the job done really well. Door auto opens to complete the drying cycle and does a quick programme in just under 1 hour.

Edit: Integrated one is the JLBIDW1419