Which HDR TV shall I get?

Noxia · 21 Jul 2020 at 13:50

I'm holding off until I can see them in the flesh but for me it's a toss up between OLED or QLED. I'm highly anxious about the burn in aspect of OLED, I can't imagine myself being able to relax everytime I play a game for a few hours and there is a hud element that doesn't change. That said, one of my pet peeves on any game is when it's supposed to be dark and I have some kind of glow from my tv backlighting which oled would have course eliminate. I have a KS7000 atm and it's annoying for that.
I just don't want to be at a ~~pint~~ point where I feel I have to babysit my TV for fear of ruining it.

Plainsong · 21 Jul 2020 at 14:05

I'm hoping more games implement a HUD like TLoU2 where it's only there if you require to change something or craft. It's more immersive anyway without the HUD always being present.

Noxia · 21 Jul 2020 at 14:57

Plainsong said:
I'm hoping more games implement a HUD like TLoU2 where it's only there if you require to change something or craft. It's more immersive anyway without the HUD always being present.

Agree,I turn it off in most games when I can.

Plainsong · 21 Jul 2020 at 14:59

Noxia said:
Agree,I turn it off in most games when I can.

Same here. Been doing it for years now.

hyperseven · 21 Jul 2020 at 16:15

pioneer2000 said:
From experience of owning both a QLED Samsung and an LG B7, the Samsung is definitely the better tv for gaming. Much brighter for HDR and no image retention

.... If you like greys instead of blacks and glow. What image retention :confused:

TheVoice · 21 Jul 2020 at 16:22

I've had a B7 for two years now, no image retention or screen burn despite a lot of gaming. A bit of common sense and you'll be fine.

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pioneer2000 · 21 Jul 2020 at 19:15

hyperseven said:
.... If you like greys instead of blacks and glow. What image retention

On the newer QLED sets that simply isn’t true. I find the lack of panel uniformity and image retention of OLED far more distracting and importantly that is evident at all times, whereas at least the lack of true black is only noticeable during dark scenes (which games generally aren’t).

Also, HDR is most definitely more impressive with the higher peak brightness that the QLED’s can achieve.

For films definitely go OLED, for gaming, it’s not that clear cut.

hyperseven · 21 Jul 2020 at 19:30

pioneer2000 said:
On the newer QLED sets that simply isn’t true. I find the lack of panel uniformity and image retention of OLED far more distracting and importantly that is evident at all times, whereas at least the lack of true black is only noticeable during dark scenes (which games generally aren’t).

Also, HDR is most definitely more impressive with the higher peak brightness that the QLED’s can achieve.

For films definitely go OLED, for gaming, it’s not that clear cut.

Image retention again :rolleyes:

Not a hint of it on my C9. Yeah, no games have dark scenes. You just cannot match the inky blacks and contrast.

The only time a QLED would be any good is in a brightly lit room.

ricky1981 · 21 Jul 2020 at 20:22

Have had a LG W7 OLED for a few years and would go the same route if this one ever breaks (or the C series if I couldn't get a wallpaper model on special). That said, once you get a decent budget, it's pretty hard to buy a bad TV and the recent non-OLED offerings from Samsung and Sony look fantastic too.

ScarySquirrel · 22 Jul 2020 at 12:03

I'm saving for a new TV and I was keen on the upcoming LG BX 48" OLED that is due to release later this year, pending reviews and price of course. I've look at LG OLED TVs in a shop and obviously they look great, but obviously they're always showing demo videos which of course are going to look amazing.

Supercow · 22 Jul 2020 at 23:32

hyperseven said:
.... If you like greys instead of blacks and glow. What image retention

I can only speak to my QLED (Q95T), but the black is as black as black black. The HDR brightness is actually something to get used to ... sit too close and I'm pretty sure you'll get a sun tan.

Ryanr1987 · 23 Jul 2020 at 01:52

QLEDS are just VA panels, they're inferior to OLEDs when it comes to picture depth, black levels and just overall image quality. Burn or pixel wear as I call it, can be a problem of course but if you vary your content and don't display static images for hours a day you should be fine for a few years. The pixels will wear out though, reds for instance wear out quicker. It's hard to say how long pixel wear takes, depends on the user. Keep OLED light low, that will kill off pixels quickly. OLEDs do have some vertical banding at some grey grades, not much of an issue, certainly less annoying than the issues back lit TVs have.

Noxia · 23 Jul 2020 at 02:15

Are Philips OLED's using the same panel as LG? I confess I quite like the ambilight gimmick.

Poneros · 23 Jul 2020 at 16:58

Noxia said:
Are Philips OLED's using the same panel as LG? I confess I quite like the ambilight gimmick.

Yup. All OLED TVs use the same panels.

TheVoice · 23 Jul 2020 at 17:52

Noxia said:
Are Philips OLED's using the same panel as LG? I confess I quite like the ambilight gimmick.

Yep, but I think Philips still use Android TV which is an abysmal Smart TV platform. LG's WebOS is far better.

Noxia · 23 Jul 2020 at 18:17

TheVoice said:
Yep, but I think Philips still use Android TV which is an abysmal Smart TV platform. LG's WebOS is far better.

Noted but tbh I don't watch TV other than Netflix now and then so shouldn't affect me either way. TV is just a gaming panel really

Poneros said:
Yup. All OLED TVs use the same panels.

Cool, gives more options if I take the plunge.

t@xman · 25 Jul 2020 at 12:50

If you are on a restricted budget then I can recommend the ROKU TV powered TVs from TCL and Hisense........I have a Samsung 65KS9500, and have been very happy with the picture, but wouldn't buy Samsung again as the support is appaling and the build quality is attrocious (the back is glued on and is peeling off - WTF?????), which for a £1500 TV is incredibly dissapointing.

I am also a big fan of Ambilight on Philips TV's - looks amazing when gaming (particularly if you have a few Philips Hue colour bulbs in the room as you can synch them all)!

TT158 · 25 Jul 2020 at 21:52

pioneer2000 said:
On the newer QLED sets that simply isn’t true. I find the lack of panel uniformity and image retention of OLED far more distracting and importantly that is evident at all times, whereas at least the lack of true black is only noticeable during dark scenes (which games generally aren’t).

Also, HDR is most definitely more impressive with the higher peak brightness that the QLED’s can achieve.

For films definitely go OLED, for gaming, it’s not that clear cut.

I was very keen on the top end QLEDs. They look amazing to my eye in demos, and nearly perfect blacks combined with incredible highlights sounded ideal to me.

I did read though, that the problem with them for gaming is that the picture processing that gives those amazing results on an LCD panel is turned off in order to get low input lag in game mode, so they really fall behind OLEDs in gaming.

kona786 · 29 Sep 2020 at 07:11

Nitefly said:
I posted this in another thread:

I’ll add though that your room needs to be really bright to use HDR in my experience. If you have a dark cinema style room, the additional light/brightness used for HDR can singe your eyes.

So adjust the brightness :confused: